Carlo franco shirts

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by esquire., Jul 22, 2004.

  1. esquire.

    esquire. Senior member

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    I know that a lot of people love their ties by carlo franco, but I never hear anybody mention their shirts. In terms of quality, which would be better- Jantzen or Carlo franco.
     


  2. Alias

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    I'm willing to bet Carlo Franco shirts offer the better deal. You can't argue with mother of pearl collar stays. [​IMG]
     


  3. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have not seen one of Chuck's shirts in person, but from his pics and his descriptions of how they are made, I think they are probably quite superior to Jantzen.
     


  4. FIHTies

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    Allow me to weigh in here.

    Lets analyze his ties please.

    We all know that we are dealing with a man that pays an almost obsessive amount of time and attention ensuring that the products that enter and leave his shop are first rate, both in fabrics and the construction and if he suspects that there are issues in which he can improve his product he does. This we know for a fact.

    So...why would you think that his shirts or for that matter anything else that he sells is anything but first rate? They are CARLO FRANCO's arent they? If a man is impassioned about his business as Chuck obviousely is you can rest assured that it will show in the products he sells.

    With that in mind I am willing to quote "someone" from a different forum regarding Chuck's merchandise...

    "They are AWESOME."

    JJF
     


  5. Carlo

    Carlo Senior member

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    Thanks fellas :)

    Well, on another subject it was suggested that my ties must not be good because they are always getting reworked and improved on so...

    My honest evaluation on my shirts:
    A.  They need work, I've had 5 prototypes of the next generation and won't hit the go button til I see what I want to on the 6th.

    B.  The materials alone cost more than $29 when buying several hundred meters of fabric, several thousand buttons and a thousand mother of pearl stays. So before I pay for construction, DHL, Customs, etcetera my cost is well over their retail price... No slam intended toward them and generally I do NOT ever slam another maker. It is, however, a different product and I am sure that for $29 they are awesome... I'm after a different market segment.

    C.  My nitpicky issues are ones that come up when comparing them to $600 shirts, not others in the same price range.  The improvements are in areas like a longer tail, shorter foot, tighter stitching, more reinforcement... picky stuff.

    ...My usual "if ya don't love them then return'm" applies.

    Right now?  I've seen a shirt with similar materials and construction only in the $300 plus range.  The prototype of the next generation is designed to go after the shirts in the range up from that in the $500 range.

    It goes very slowly but the honest truth is I can't afford to rush, our model depends on customers loving what they get and spreading the word.

    Thanks for the kind words and patience :)
     


  6. Alias

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    It's a shame I can't buy these wonderful shirts. I'm a 14.75" collar and 33" sleeve, and rare is the shirt that comes in this size. I suppose I could go ahead and take the extra .25", but I'm really picky about how my collars fit. [​IMG]
     


  7. tdial

    tdial Senior member

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    Chuck, I looked at your site and was interested in your shirts. It appears, though, as if you only have one collar option--point collar. Any plans to add more of a spread collar to your offerings?
     


  8. Carlo

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    New collar is part of the next batch too :)

    ...it's a bit tough with shirts. One fabric times 12 sizes times two lenghts times 2 cuffs times.....

    Pretty soon one fabric explodes into 50 SKUs, then you figure on which will sell fastest, get lots of those and every other size sells out immediately :)

    Would you believe I went into this business sane?
     


  9. don_andomo

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    can someone post carlo's website here? thx.
     


  10. FIHTies

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    Chuck's Site
     


  11. FIHTies

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    I will second Chuck's feeling on this. Its very very difficult for a retailer to initially introduce any product because you cannot merely introduce one style but you need the whole array of sizes, and or fabrics. Then if you go heavy on one style only to find that it didnt work you arent stuck with 1 shirt or item but that one Item in all the styles, fabrics and sizes that you ordered. YOU cant very well send it back to your supplier and let them know ...Ooops...sorry it didnt sell. take them back. So in retail it really is Hit and miss. You order and pray that as much as you liked it your customers will like it. JJF
     


  12. Kai

    Kai Senior member

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    I don't have any experience with Carlo Franco shirts, but as soon as Chuck offers them in my size (16 1/2 34) I will buy several of them.

    Kai
     


  13. don_andomo

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    I second that. I'm also 16.5/34
     


  14. Carlo

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    LOL...

    You guys don't fall for that whole 34/35 thing like most people. Sigh.

    The best thing in the world for my business is knowledgable customers.... the trickiest part? Same deal.
     


  15. FIHTies

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    Change that Carlo... Sounds too much like the war cry of Syms...An educated consumer is our best customer... Yah. I shudder to think what the fellows from this forum would do to a Syms employee... [​IMG] JJF
     


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