Being well dressed VS having an ugly body..

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by junior varsity

i turned myself from a stick figure to what i am

If you started as a 'stick figure', how the hell would you know how hard it is for a fat person to lose weight? Gaining then losing weight when your naturally skinny is hardly the same as losing weight when you naturally tend towards fatness.

And this isn't coming from a *****, I'm currently a 'stick figure'. I wouldn't dare to lecture anyone on how easy it is to lose weight because I've never been a person for which losing weight was necessary, and clearly neither have you. If you're anything like me it's the gaining weight which is hard, as long as you eat a reasonably healthy diet you will continue to tend towards the 'stick figure' end of the scale. That doesn't mean it is like that for everyone.

 

[mic]

Originally Posted by Man Of Lint

If any useful advice makes it to this thread, I'll be amazed.

I don't think there's any danger of that.

 

[junior varsity]

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

If you started as a 'stick figure', how the hell would you know how hard it is for a fat person to lose weight? Gaining then losing weight when your naturally skinny is hardly the same as losing weight when you naturally tend towards fatness. And this isn't coming from a *****, I'm currently a 'stick figure'. I wouldn't dare to lecture anyone on how easy it is to lose weight because I've never been a person for which losing weight was necessary, and clearly neither have you. If you're anything like me it's the gaining weight which is hard, as long as you eat a reasonably healthy diet you will continue to tend towards the 'stick figure' end of the scale. That doesn't mean it is like that for everyone.
obviously i had to put on weight to become more muscular and you cant just pack on lean meat, whatever you gain during your loading processing will be both fat and muscle. so i started @ 140lbs and got to 162 @ 5'7" (more than 20lbs of fat, muscle, water, etc) then i obviously wanted to cut the and get leaner, it took me 2 weeks to lose 10lbs from 2x and sometimes 3x a day of exercise. morning run, working out around noon and finishing off with evening jog/spirited walk. so, yes, i was technically fat for a bit, then i had to lose a lot of it. gaining weight is NOT hard. when i was bulking, i ate everything... 3 cheese burgers and large fries from mcdonalds. you need to eat an extra of 3600 calories to gain every lb, and vice versa. if you eat only maintenance level then of course you cant gain any weight.

 

[kohelet]

Originally Posted by Nicola

You lost 10lbs of fat in two weeks?

10 pounds of garbage weight. um yeah you lost water weight bro.

 

[Xenon]

Properly fitting clothes can absolutely hide many flaws to an extent.

Olive oil: most of the stuff on the market is over processed low grade stuff that has been heated and corroded. No where near the health benefits claimed. Also the safest fat to cook is by far butter, yes it's saturated but that saturation protects it from corrosion under heat. Olive oil has a very low flash point and is one of the worst PUFAs to heat as all sorts of unhealthy chemical transformations occur quickly.

I am very lean and 40 and would never claim to have good advice to give about losing weight but we must get away from banning entire classes of food. I eat fried foods, butter, cheese, real ice cream (Haagen Dazz made with real cream and natural ingredients only), red meat, foie gras, beer, wine, spirits, red meat and all in moderation. I have also never spent a single minute in a gym and will never do so, but I am active. Balancing food intake and activity is one important step to achieving a healthy and fit body.

 

[robbz9206]

if you have an ugly face you can still maximize your features as well as possible. workout.

 

[noggin]

Originally Posted by junior varsity

i am 25, working full time (with plenty of overtime hours), going to the gym daily for 2 hours.
i eat whole wheat chicken or turkey meat sandwich every day for lunch at work.
i drink 1 serving of pro-complex protein every morning along with 3 servings of organic whole grain cereal + fat free milk.
for dinner its usually home cooked pasta or rice + chicken/fish/seafood/beef/tofu
between meals, i eat the organic whole grain/trail mix snack bars.
no soda, i just drink seltzer water, tea or regular purified water.

its not as difficult as it seems. basically an athlete's diet.

Sounds fun. You must be really interesting.

 

[junior varsity]

Originally Posted by Xenon

Properly fitting clothes can absolutely hide many flaws to an extent.

Olive oil: most of the stuff on the market is over processed low grade stuff that has been heated and corroded. No where near the health benefits claimed. Also the safest fat to cook is by far butter, yes it's saturated but that saturation protects it from corrosion under heat. Olive oil has a very low flash point and is one of the worst PUFAs to heat as all sorts of unhealthy chemical transformations occur quickly.

I am very lean and 40 and would never claim to have good advice to give about losing weight but we must get away from banning entire classes of food. I eat fried foods, butter, cheese, real ice cream (Haagen Dazz made with real cream and natural ingredients only), red meat, foie gras, beer, wine, spirits, red meat and all in moderation. I have also never spent a single minute in a gym and will never do so, but I am active. Balancing food intake and activity is one important step to achieving a healthy and fit body.

a fit body is not as good to the eye as an athletic body
and an athletic body is not as good to the eye as cristiano ronaldo's lean, mean 85 million dollar machine.

 

[junior varsity]

Originally Posted by noggin

Sounds fun. You must be really interesting.

interesting-ness is totally subjective

 

[Meis]

Originally Posted by babygreenspots

I actually think fairly obese people in impressive clothing can look rather imposing - even intimidating.

In some situations it might be better to be fat and well-dressed than fit and well-dressed. If you are attractive and well-dressed it can be a bit too much, overwhelming and give the impression of dandyishness or flightiness. On the other hand, the fat, suited man seems ready to make a serious move - he seems like he means business. Obviously, there are limits to this in terms of fatness.

Originally Posted by babygreenspots

A fat well-dressed guy seems like he might own a diamond mind, whereas a fit, well-dressed guy seems foppish.

I supposed the days of the bloated plutocrat are over though...rich people are fit (and generally badly dressed), these days.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Originally Posted by junior varsity

i am 25, working full time (with plenty of overtime hours), going to the gym daily for 2 hours.
i eat whole wheat chicken or turkey meat sandwich every day for lunch at work.
i drink 1 serving of pro-complex protein every morning along with 3 servings of organic whole grain cereal + fat free milk.
for dinner its usually home cooked pasta or rice + chicken/fish/seafood/beef/tofu
between meals, i eat the organic whole grain/trail mix snack bars.
no soda, i just drink seltzer water, tea or regular purified water.

its not as difficult as it seems. basically an athlete's diet.

All that and you haven't even made varsity yet? Sheesh.

 

[mkarim]

Originally Posted by junior varsity

i am 25, working full time (with plenty of overtime hours), going to the gym daily for 2 hours.
i eat whole wheat chicken or turkey meat sandwich every day for lunch at work.
i drink 1 serving of pro-complex protein every morning along with 3 servings of organic whole grain cereal + fat free milk.
for dinner its usually home cooked pasta or rice + chicken/fish/seafood/beef/tofu
between meals, i eat the organic whole grain/trail mix snack bars.
no soda, i just drink seltzer water, tea or regular purified water.

its not as difficult as it seems. basically an athlete's diet.
Yes its not difficult. One needs a certain amount of drive and motivation. I lost 45 lbs and 7 inches off my waist in 7 months by exercising regularly and eating healthy. Just like anything else in life, its just how bad you want it.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

I actually lost 100 pounds. I didn't do any of that. I just stopped being a hog. Didn't drink soda, or eat two burritos before bed and such. There is no secret to losing weight really. Just don't eat as much. As far and doing push-ups and being tone and all of that nonsense I couldn't care less. I'd rather go shoe shopping.

 

[Dewey]

The opposite is definitely true: if you have a beautiful body, you will look good in almost anything.

My guess is the total picture is 70% body, 30% clothes, with some accounting for individual taste adjusting the numbers in the end. That is pictures.

The real life formula is probably more like 30% manner, 50% body, 20% clothes, with manner being the way you carry yourself, interact with others, etc.

All the time we know people who look great in pictures but fail to impress in person, and vice versa.

 

[bowtielover]

I have always said take a man of brad pitts stature in just a plin t-shirt and jeans and stand him next to a guy who kind of looks like steve bushimi in a nice tailored suit, and I will always go for the latter. For me I say the better dressed you are teh more appealing or attractive you will appear, at least to me anyways.