Attolini Black TopCoat with a persian lamb collar-PiCs!

Originally Posted by zjpj83

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This coat is so perfect for the regular wear, the vertical lines are a nice touch, understated yet unique. Bellissimo!

I posted these pictures at AAAC, but here's a series of three pictures that compare how the lapel lies on the chest for Zegna Couture, Attolini, and Borrelli: The suit brands are given away by their link names, but try to guess which is which before looking. --Andre

Originally Posted by EL72

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I am sure it's beautiful in person too but as you said about extreme cuts, how much waist suppression is enough? This is one is even more pronounced than the lamb and imo, too much waist suppression and the coat begins to look like a ladies coat.
The best overcoats are fitted like that.

LK, it's a matter of taste. You can't automatically say the best anything is a corset.

I can't say I like the shearling collared coat much at all. It's a little too showy, and a scarf would do the job just fine.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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The best overcoats are fitted like that.

Like ladies' coats?

Personally, I like the waist suppression. But it all depends upon whether or not it will flatter YOUR physique. I have an 8" drop between chest and waist, so the waist suppression suits me. But for others, I can see how it could be a bit much. That being said, I do love Attolini's silhouette. The DB coat is beautiful. I would just add a ticket pocket to it. Bellisima!

I like Attolini's look as its very distinctive, beautiful to behold, and primarily has that 'Tailored' persona that the plebs (just joking) look upon as, "that man is well dressed"
I own this very coat in this very color and am extremely pleased.
I look kinda of sillly in padded shoulders, so alot has to do with your build, and I've never had anyone say I look like a
womanhttp://styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=13720
A man should naturally have a a V-taper not a "Homer Simpson" silhouette

Originally Posted by EL72

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Like ladies' coats?
They replicate the cut of the suit underneath. This is only achievable with bespoke or very good MTM.

Originally Posted by Jovan

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LK, it's a matter of taste. You can't automatically say the best anything is a corset.

I can't say I like the shearling collared coat much at all. It's a little too showy, and a scarf would do the job just fine.
Well, if we go for traditional dogma, then their version of the "best" would be with the corset camp. Considering that, men did wear corsets during the '20s up until the '40s to achieve that silhouette you tend to see in Apparel Arts.

Unfortunately, most men don't respect themselves enough today to achieve any look even mediocre.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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They replicate the cut of the suit underneath. This is only achievable with bespoke or very good MTM.
I agree with LK here. One comment would be that overcoats should either be very fitted or very, very full. THe latter style is great in a British Warm style or an almost cape looking coat.

Originally Posted by iammatt

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I agree with LK here.

One comment would be that overcoats should either be very fitted or very, very full. THe latter style is great in a British Warm style or an almost cape looking coat.
A very full coat looks nice with raglan sleeves or in one of those A-Line coats you rarely see anymore.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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Well, if we go for traditional dogma, then their version of the "best" would be with the corset camp. Considering that, men did wear corsets during the '20s up until the '40s to achieve that silhouette you tend to see in Apparel Arts.

Unfortunately, most men don't respect themselves enough today to achieve any look even mediocre.

--- LK, seems you've researched on the psychology of certain sectors of society's men actually finding dismay in taking care of themselves; I would be quite interested in a post on your thoughts/psychology of current US menswear and why men do or do not dress well. Is this pride in uncouth dress strictly a US subculture mentality Why has this come to play per se?

Originally Posted by Soph

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--- LK, seems you've researched on the psychology of certain sectors of society's men actually finding dismay in taking care of themselves; I would be quite interested in a post on your thoughts/psychology of current US menswear and why men do or do not dress well. Is this uncouth dress strictly a US subculture mentality Why has this come to play per se?
It seems it's strictly a question of "egalitarianism", and slouching standards. The former is a sort of inherent American attitude, which really hit its stride after the Hippy Revolution, and achieved its existence in the late '70s with feminism, and other PostModernist situations. Even with the tacky lounge suits, polyester suits, etc. of the '70s, there was still an expectation of looking suitable for occassions. The latter seems to be reflective of the American notion of being the supreme nation, and demographic so they feel they can justify anything thus slouching standards. Which is why the world tends to follow sloppiness. Also, post Stonewall, many men are afraid of being perceived as gay, which is especially apparent with being well-dressed in a sea of sloppiness that is current thought--quite the opposite of a subculture. In fact, subcultural entities usually pay much more attention to their overall look especially the retro types.

if you look at the jacket belonging to one of the Attolinis, it is much less severe

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I don`t think the Attolinis are wearing RTW or MTM...that is why their suits are different.

I imagine Kiton, Attolini, etc. use machine in certain parts to save time and cost without sacrificing quality as much as much possible. Most RTW customers would not know the difference (or care that much), and for those that do know the difference would just order bespoke (Like the Attolinis themselves).

Does anyone know if you can get that Persian lamb done in a different color or does Persian lamb limit your choice to black?