Team Spirit.

[MetroStyles]

Originally Posted by GQgeek

I don't think anyone is arguing about the necessity of teams. It's the idiotic excercises some people make you do in a vain attempt to make you work better as a team. Those sorts of things are probably more prevalent in sales or marketing than finance or anything technical.

You mean like going around the room and sharing one fun fact about yourself? Yeah, that **** is marsupialed.

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

You mean like going around the room and sharing one fun fact about yourself? Yeah, that **** is marsupialed.

Thankfully, everyone in IT is antisocial and we don't do that kind of thing.

 

[CTGuy]

Originally Posted by GQgeek

I don't think anyone is arguing about the necessity of teams. It's the idiotic excercises some people make you do in a vain attempt to make you work better as a team. Those sorts of things are probably more prevalent in sales or marketing than finance or anything technical.

I would not want you working for me.

The mind set you have is of the hands on engineer, analyst, etc. I imagine your concept of "work" and productivity is based entirely upon your own crunching of number, programming, sales, etc. The reality is that on managerial, entrepeneurial, company wide basis "team work", for lack of a better term, is vital. To over simplify-- two heads are always better than one.

 

[itsstillmatt]

With the lights out it's less dangerous
Here we are now
Entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now
Entertain us
A mulatto
An albino
A mosquito
My Libido
Yeah

 

[rzi]

LK not a fan of the girls are ya?

 

[lawyerdad]

Originally Posted by dapperdude

Well said. Most corporations are run like socialist collectives, which explains the emphasis on hiring "team players" by many employers.

Caitalism is Socialism. Ignorance is Bliss.

 

[rzi]

I always loved team work in High School.

 

[lawyerdad]

 

[Dedalus]

Guys, you're going to have to start playing ball and taking a proactive approach to these trust-building exercises. The resulting synergy is invaluable to our outside-the-box mindset, thus building an efficient and productive goal-oriented team.

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by CTGuy

I would not want you working for me.

The mind set you have is of the hands on engineer, analyst, etc. I imagine your concept of "work" and productivity is based entirely upon your own crunching of number, programming, sales, etc. The reality is that on managerial, entrepeneurial, company wide basis "team work", for lack of a better term, is vital. To over simplify-- two heads are always better than one.

Again, I'm not bemoaning team work because it's essential in a modern work environment. Many tasks are simply too big or complicated for one person, especially in engineering and technical disciplines. I'm bemoaning some of the stupid ass activities some employers make you participate in because they think it makes team members "closer" or work better together. Maybe it does for some people, but I just find it annoying because I have no problems conveying ideas or managing workflow in a team environment. LK is fundamentally right in his assesment. They people that benefit from those sorts of activities are dolts.

 

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by Dedalus

Guys, you're going to have to start playing ball and taking a proactive approach to these trust-building exercises. The resulting synergy is invaluable to our outside-the-box mindset, thus building an efficient and productive goal-oriented team.

My brain is now bleeding, thank you.

 

[Thomas]

There are few forces more powerful than a team where the leader is strong and the members are of like mind and capabilities. However, large disparities of talent or motivation will render a team inert. Too bad I saw more of the latter than the former in B-school.

 

[dapperdude]

Originally Posted by lawyerdad

Caitalism is Socialism. Ignorance is Bliss.

Are you saying my statement is a kind of doublespeak?

Mandatory volunteerism, shared time-off programs, group healthcare (many CEO's even support government-mandated insurance), etc., are not particularly capitalistic. They are not mutually exclusive with capitalism, however. Fascism is a form of capitalism, and most Western economies are clearly forms of mixed socialism/fascism.

That said, I believe that a certain amount of teamwork is essential. More so in the types of projects I work on (software development). The larger the team, though, the more it resembles a kind of socialist collective, where individualism is frowned upon, and where a small % of the team carries the weight of everyone else. Just like in a socialist society.

 

[Britalian]

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

Are you people nuts? Without teamwork nothing would get done. I'm not saying complete equality within a team is productive - in fact I have never heard of that working. But teamwork, whether it be in a corporation, a basketball team, a heist, or hitting on girls in bars, can always create an outcome superior to what one person could create. I mean this is self-evident, how could anyone deny it?

"The little rascal has spirit."
-"Has what, sir?"
"Spirit!"
-"Yes, he did, sir."
"No, no, spirit. Bravado, a touch of derring-do."
-"About 11, sir"

 

[LabelKing]

The English used to have a phrase to describe those politicians who were not team-players and very individualistic in their approach: "A little bit too clever".