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Photo essay on Britain's last oak bark tannery

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ManofKent, Aug 10, 2011.

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  1. wmb

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  2. rabiesinfrance

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    I'd certainly be interested if not too pricey.
     
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    Enjoyed the video; would also potentially be interested in a casual belt from it for use with jeans, etc, depending on the shade of colour and the price.
     
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    MoK, thank you for sharing this.

    Andrey
     
  5. Equus Leather

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    Great to see people being interested! Its really nice to see there are still enclaves of people interested in what goes into making something properly and the old fashioned way.

    I'll try to come up with some specifics tomorrow but, subject to numbers we could do

    1 limited run of Australian Nut and if there was any demand 1 of London Tan, a maximum of 16 belts per colour, depending on the widths people want. I think either our solid Brass or solid Nickel West End with stainless tounges would be the best buckles for them, but we could use any that we stock really. Widths could be 1 1/8, 1 1/4 or 1 1/2". Each belt would have a certificate from us to certify the origin, leather and the signature of the craftsman who made it plus a brass fob with it's number in the run.

    I think we'd have to charge about £50/belt, probably with small changes for the width. I suspect my Bakers price list is out of date, so that might change a little but not a lot. We'd have to sell 5 per colour to make it viable really. Shipping anywhere in the world is no problem, we charge £4 shipping for the UK, £9.75 for the EU and £12.75.

    I really want to make this a SF only deal so it won't be on our website or anywhere else, but I'll post in sw&d as well.

    Hope people are keen!

    Charlie
     
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    I haven't bought a belt for a very long time. If I ordered a 36", what size range would that cover? Could I adjust down to a 34", or up to a 38"? I don't want to cut it down if, say, I dropped a size. A quality belt for life!
     
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    All our belts by default come with 7 holes1" apart and are sold as the size to the middle hole. If you ordered a 36" the belt would adjust from 33" to 39". The idea is exactly as you say- a belt for life. That said every belt is made individually for it's owner so hole placement and numbers is entirely up to the person who orders it, we have made belts with 5, 3,1 and 0 holes before. Sizes are generally by the 1" but 1/2" is fine too.

    HTH

    Charlie
     
  8. PipersSon

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    Great video.

    I'd be interested in the belts as well.

    Thanks.
     
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    £50/belt? :drool:

    I'd possibly buy two. :)
     
  10. Nick V.

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    Great thread. Thanks MOK and other contributors.
    Here's a different twist:

    Let's keep this going.
     
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    Charlie -

    I'd almost certainly be interested in a belt, I need something nice like that for casual wear and the uniqueness of it is a bonus. If you get to the point of wanting seriously interested folks to email you about it and/or think about deposits, please make sure you post in this thread!
     
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    Thanks All,

    I'll be in touch with all those who have expressed an interest once I have the price firmly sorted, which I hope will be in the next day or two. Unless there is a huge shock when I get the current leather price list or lots of people drop out we will go ahead, so please post here or drop me a PM if your interested. I'll collate a list, establish sizes etc with the participants and we'll send paypal invoices to those who want one when we have the final prices.

    I'm going to post this in SW&D as well.

    Charlie
     
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    Brilliant stills there really capture the labour intensive nature of the process - love that it still looks how it was when conceived

    Great news Charlie that you are doing this commission - despite having recently received my three orders I might be keen so will let you know!

    Keep up the great work and big thumbs up for Equus

    PS ive not got round to it yet but will at some point do my quick review of my brilliant Equus experience thus far!
     
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    Sounds interesting. One mid/lt brown and one dark reddish brown (cordovan color)? What's their color range.
     
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    See here.

    I'm ok with Australian nut and the nickel West End buckle my self, just as Charlie suggested.


    edit: since Charlie quoted me, there's no reason to have the same images twice.
     
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    James,

    Thanks for compiling all that!

    Bakers Australian Nut looks like this - a similar shade to the Sedgwicks we use thats above, but a very different outcome. A much more aniline dye lets all of the underlying nature of the leather show thorough

    http://www.jfjbaker.co.uk/equestrian_a.php - sorry I can't include the image, I can't workout how get the image from the page!

    The buckle above is Stainless Steel. Its nice but quite cold (and also temporarily unavailable). Nickel is a warmer yellow white and totally in keeping with the nature of the leather and the period the technology used in the tanning process is from, if you see what I mean. The picture bellow is bottle green Sedgwicks leather and a Nickel West End with a Stainless Steel tounge.

    [​IMG]

    Given all the pas I've had we will comfortably have enough people, as soon as I have the final price (early next week) I'll be in touch with all who have expressed an interest to confirm interest and get their sizes etc.

    Charlie
     
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    That is lovely, isn't it.


    I prefer the link above, but here's a Baker's color chart:
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    Charlie,

    Would you consider doing a lined and raised version?
     
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    Back to the tannery on MoK's original post, I am always amazed, even though I see this time and and time again, by the level of work that goes into the manufacturing of things taken for granted. The concept is not difficult - you are soaking animal skin with "tree skin" to make the former more durable, but to achieve this takes . . . a coaxing from us humans to make this happen. This coaxing results in mandatory time and is a wonderful example of the concept of patience that I'd say most people don't have these days.

    What are other examples that I'm thinking compare to this operation? I'd say Horween for a more direct relation. Also the barrique makers in France for wine aging, as well as those who age their wine in the oak barrels. You look at the whole product, the one that you finally purchase and enjoy, and think about what really went into it and you can be amazed that the item can be as cheap as it actually is.
     

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