The Deacon
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What's the knock on Warren Moon?
Joe Gilliam was better than Bradshaw!
Joe Gilliam was better than Bradshaw!
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Best for performance, montana or starr. If I could pick any single one of them in their youth to start my fanchise: MANNING.
i think Sean Salisbury would have made the list if he didn't retire so early to promote the Sean Salisbury Brand.
That **** don't fly outside of Miami. If only this, if only that.....
hmmm, yea i agree with not being very tough, he is less efficient under pressure for sure. that just goes with being on that team i think though. he has more "throwaways"(checkdowns arent there, mental timer is buzzing) than any qb i can think of. gonzo, reggie wayne, and especially marvin harrison just fall at the first signs of contact. the O line, with a few notable exceptions in big playoff games, has been as good as one could ask for. i can think of 2 rushing titles with edge.
BUT that only half of the equation. there defense has been consistently in the bottom quarter for a long time now. theyre rushing defense is just atrocious. the colts offense constantly has had the fewest possessions of any offense in the league because of this. to their defense, they are built to rush the passer and play with a lead.
then you look at the other end of the spectrum and see big ben. opponents averaged like 14 points a game against them last year. im pretty sure the steelers could have made the playoffs with me playing qb last year. that is just not fair to put ben above peyton because of SB wins. obviously nobody is putting ben over him (that would be insane after all), and this is an example of extremes, but i feel this same principal applies to an extent when comparing qbs.
coupled with the fact that the playoffs are single elimination is why i do not like using that as a steadfast guide
he didnt suck, but it was always wrong to put him ahead of peyton manning...
he was a good qb who was on a Great team with the best coaching staff/front office of all time. after he threw 50, he became great. i do think hes an awesome quarterback, just not the best.
the earliest qb's i saw play were elway, aikman, young. never really got a chance to judge montana and a few of those other old guys.
nobody in that modern era is a better qb than peyton manning, he has completely dominated the league for a long time now, and hes only getting better. if you are a football fan and dont watch him play ever sunday, you are seriously missing out
What's the knock on Warren Moon?
I dont think people realize that peyton CALLS PLAYS. tom moore sends formations, not plays.
I feel like the number of championships is less meaningful than other stats in evaluating a QB. Agree or disagree? Are Bradshaw and Brady great QBs, or are they only on the list because of a Steel Curtain defense and a kicker's foot? Is Manning marginally better than Marino, or are they both two of the absolute best ever?