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Pitti Uomo 87 in pictures
SartodiNapoli
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I always have invitations and won´t ever be part of that circus that parodies the high tailoring into a sanitarium or circus.
Note any of the top tailors go Pitti ( or the few never take part of the circus, just go as a true gentleman, dressed as must be, do their business and return home, only owners of ( dubious taste and quality ) shops who use that for ¿ inmature promotion? and don´t know a thing about dressing or tailoring( obvious pics thumbs up etc)
Due to this, the big brands as Brioni etc are deciding to leave this circus as they do not want to be associated with this, what will make them lose
their clientele, high directives, prime ministers and serious dressers who as me, see this as a profanation and an act of the worst taste possible.
For what i have been told from the inside, Pitti will end on a few years, and It was about time.
Ridiculicing, parodying, lowering, mocking and the humillation of a serious sacrified business as tailoring is was too much for us who believe on elegance and a dignous good work.
Note any of the top tailors go Pitti ( or the few never take part of the circus, just go as a true gentleman, dressed as must be, do their business and return home, only owners of ( dubious taste and quality ) shops who use that for ¿ inmature promotion? and don´t know a thing about dressing or tailoring( obvious pics thumbs up etc)
Due to this, the big brands as Brioni etc are deciding to leave this circus as they do not want to be associated with this, what will make them lose
their clientele, high directives, prime ministers and serious dressers who as me, see this as a profanation and an act of the worst taste possible.
For what i have been told from the inside, Pitti will end on a few years, and It was about time.
Ridiculicing, parodying, lowering, mocking and the humillation of a serious sacrified business as tailoring is was too much for us who believe on elegance and a dignous good work.
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So, what you're trying to say is that you enjoyed the pictures and appreciate Erik taking the time to post them....awesome, me too!
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I think most would agree that there are many ridiculous, clownish bozos at pitti, but it's still fun to watch. Besides, there are a small number interesting products and well dressed folks as well.
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That may very well turn out to be the case but at this time I see no evidence of that. If anything, it is more attended and covered than ever. I could see it becoming less of a "thing" and the dress shifting as tastes do...but nevertheless continuing to exist.
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This. Also, if by ceasing to exist, @SartodiNapoli, you mean bigger and more successful, then you are right. Everyone always complains about the big shows, but this year participation was greater than ever.
This. Also, if by ceasing to exist, @SartodiNapoli, you mean bigger and more successful, then you are right. Everyone always complains about the big shows, but this year participation was greater than ever.
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Agreed. And the pics are definitely fun.
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What i was told is that it will dissapear soon ( and will get kind a facial lifting renewal, to get rid of what is today), as it has become a show of disguissed people instead of buyers buying. That serious big brands do not want to be involved with this, and that economic return from having stands there is low, any or minimun, expecially compared with other serious shows when you do not see all this excess of dubious taste that perjudicates any who is serious on the business.
About this, i am not marketing expert, but heard the same concept. You invest a lot on a tv commercial that is seen by tons of million people ( prime time on the morning per example) were people who see it are jubilated people with low income or sadly unemployee people. This means that from 5 million viewer people, only a few are potential buyers able to buy your product, so they decide to pay less and find other dedicated programs were more % will be potencial customers instead.
The brands realiced was a bad thing to be on Pitti time ago with all this disguise show, be associated with that bad image, or those are not potential clients indeed and the succesful, is not economical succesful, but only people who pays the entrance or goes there, but any buys or leaves wanting to get a Brioni or X suit, that is the real success they, and everybody, except the attention seekers on the door, want to achieve.
The famous guy always thumbs up (i omit his name), cowboy shoes and always opened DB jackets on overdose UVA rays, it might seem very succesfull as he is a Pitti icon or is an all the ( dubious taste) blogs, japanese fashion magazine, but he and similar imitators of this " business" model as he , who are in all this pictures, don´t sell barely enough to pay the bills each month or each year refinance with banks to stay open.
So, he is the perfect example that this doesn´t attracts money or sales, that is what they want. They already got the fame, but can´t pay bills.
Most of the attention seekers you see edition after edition ( always are the few same) are mostly (bad) tailors, bloggers, ruined shop owners, some hair dressers or " stilistas" as well who want pics and fame. People who the industry doesn´t need but on the contrary those needs the industry.
A thing i should not say, a fashion brand ( who promotes that Joker kind bad look) who expent a lot on his Pitti stand, has let unpaid tons of euros to a shirtmaker factory i know and it seems won´t ever pay his deubt for tons of shirts made and delivered.
On the serious shows were shop buyers, fabric shows in Paris or Milan, shoe in Frankfurt or Milan as well, you don´t see all this disgusting images, so even the industry wants to get rid of it asap. ( And i hope soon for the image and dignity and seriousness of the tailoring business)
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I know nothing of Lino's business, but unpaid bills are an age old story (I've had to deal with this for brands I've represented, and that has nothing to do with any particular show. I can say, first hand, that the Pitti organization is doing more and more PR to people like me, as are the brands. As for sales, Pitti has always been notoriously slow, but that has been due to it's early placement in the season.
So, you may be right, but then the work they organizers put in, especially recently, would make no sense.
I know nothing of Lino's business, but unpaid bills are an age old story (I've had to deal with this for brands I've represented, and that has nothing to do with any particular show. I can say, first hand, that the Pitti organization is doing more and more PR to people like me, as are the brands. As for sales, Pitti has always been notoriously slow, but that has been due to it's early placement in the season.
So, you may be right, but then the work they organizers put in, especially recently, would make no sense.
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I feel it's the only place I can wear my Berluti Alpaca Overcoat. Have to try and go next year.
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It was my third season at Pitti Uomo. It was the first time that I help my friend for his brand. (before I was invited by Pitti Uomo as Press then as Blogger).
I didn't hear any rumors about Pitti Uomo closing his doors. It would be very sad.
One buyer from Japan (he got the biggest account in the country) told me that 80% of Pitti selection is crap but you still have very interesting brands and fews gems.
He told me that Pitti always have peacocks outside smoking and people working inside.
Some peacocks make a decent living. They got money from brands, they got free stuff, they do PR for brands.
I didn't hear any rumors about Pitti Uomo closing his doors. It would be very sad.
One buyer from Japan (he got the biggest account in the country) told me that 80% of Pitti selection is crap but you still have very interesting brands and fews gems.
He told me that Pitti always have peacocks outside smoking and people working inside.
Some peacocks make a decent living. They got money from brands, they got free stuff, they do PR for brands.
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I understand SartodiNapoli's reasons for bemoaning the clown-show aspects of Pitti, but don't fully agree. Surely this is simply an opportunity for men in the fashion industry to try out some more outlandish ideas on each other. A lot of it fails, sure; but there are some glorious successes too. Regardless of whether the outfits are good or bad, a keen observer would doubtless discern trends in the industry, which will in some cases filter through to the next batch of designs. This is how ideas move forward.
Sartodi, why do you take everything so damn seriously? Lighten up, man! Pitti Uomo is not sartorial Armageddon - it's just another trade fair. If you don't like it, you don't have to go - and you don't have to read threads like this one, either.
Anyway, thanks EFV for your amazing work bringing all these great shots to us. Brilliant stuff, much better than all the other non-SF blogs I've seen so far.
Sartodi, why do you take everything so damn seriously? Lighten up, man! Pitti Uomo is not sartorial Armageddon - it's just another trade fair. If you don't like it, you don't have to go - and you don't have to read threads like this one, either.
Anyway, thanks EFV for your amazing work bringing all these great shots to us. Brilliant stuff, much better than all the other non-SF blogs I've seen so far.
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It's true, the week I spent in Italy before Pitti was really hard on that waistcoat :-/
It's true, the week I spent in Italy before Pitti was really hard on that waistcoat :-/
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