just bought these puppies courtesy of ebay
The brands that have been suggested to you are much higher quality.
These are a great deal if you don't mind a single monk. They're made by Tricker's, I think Handgrade. You can always cut off the grosgrain at the back.
Should have waited a couple hours, more expensive but double (not single) monk. Brooks Brothers Black Fleece by C&J.
Awesome thanks. Is getting a size 11.5 as a size 12 gonna be suicide