Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc...) - official thread.

Frank the sheep · Jan 26, 2013

Calikid said:
I agree the boot looks really nice but if we ordered cognac and these are in fact Saddle what are we going to do?

After looking at pics of saddle and cognac shell my opinion is that this is cognac but a very light version. I was the one who manage this MTO and i talked to Skoaktiebolaget several times about what boot we wanted. I did send the pic that we had for ref. and i know SkoAB sent that to Carmina because we wanted to be sure they could do it (i know this because Carmina made a comment when we wanted rubber soles and said that it was leather soles in the pic).

Here is a shoe in saddle that SkoAB sells. Even lighter than our boot.

Leaves · Jan 26, 2013

Dear all,

I understand some of you have concerns about the colour of the PT Group MTO. First of all, let me post some pictures.

Old run of Saddle Cordovan from Skoaktiebolaget:

Old run of Cognac Cordovan at Skoaktiebolaget:

New run of Cognac Cordovan for SF PT boot:

There are great variations in shades for different batches of Horween Cordovan. We all know this. This Cognac batch did turn out light, but it is still Cognac. If you have any concerns, we will answer you all personally, just e-mail us or call us, we will help you.

To further illustrate my point, have a look on these Burgundy Cordovan batches:

Old Burgundy Cordovan run (some would say this is close to Ruby):

New Burgundy Cordovan MTO (very dark):

skeen7908 · Jan 26, 2013

If anyone is disatisfied with the colour of their 8UK cognac boot, I would be happy to purchase the pair from them

sinnedk · Jan 26, 2013

Leaves said:
New Burgundy Cordovan MTO (very dark):

are you getting a run of these? how much?

diglett · Jan 26, 2013

It seems like a lot of us are a bit annoyed with the color of the MTO boot, but keep in mind (like Leaves said) that shell is all over the place. I definitely knew beforehand that Cognac could take on lots of different shades, and because I want a darker one, I'll probably be applying some sort of darker (black, maybe?) waxes.

sinnedk · Jan 26, 2013

skeen7908 said:
If anyone is disatisfied with the colour of their 8UK cognac boot, I would be happy to purchase the pair from them

+1 i think they look good, im a uk10 (us11) if you want to give me a good deal

SoGent · Jan 27, 2013

diglett said:
It seems like a lot of us are a bit annoyed with the color of the MTO boot, but keep in mind (like Leaves said) that shell is all over the place. I definitely knew beforehand that Cognac could take on lots of different shades, and because I want a darker one, I'll probably be applying some sort of darker (black, maybe?) waxes.

you've nailed it digs. shell shading varies A LOT from batch to batch and should have been a consideration from the beginning.

Swede66 · Jan 27, 2013

Hi guys,

Any one not happy with their 8UK pm me before you have them shipped. I live in Stockholm and could pick them up if you want to sell them.

Jagger_On · Jan 27, 2013

Looks like Matches will be carrying Carmina this season http://www.matchesfashion.com/mens/carmina-shoemaker.

Good news for people in London as they have a couple of stores so it should make it easier to try them on.

mymil · Jan 27, 2013

The first time I tried to order a cognac boot from Carmina, I got saddle. (The boots up-thread are mine.) Betty told me that they sometimes refer to "light cognac" and "dark cognac," so since then I am careful to add that modifier.

PorterInjax · Jan 27, 2013

anyone in the states not liking their 8UK let me know

SoGent · Jan 28, 2013

diglett said:
^ Those para boots are definitely lighter than I had expected/hoped, but I'll withhold actual judgment until I put them on my feet.

And nothing that some wax can't fix, eh?

given the apparent oil content of shell, i wonder how difficult / easy it would be to darken the color shade.
i'm wondering because of an idea rolling around in my head involving navy blue shell.

joiji · Jan 28, 2013

SoGent said:
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My understanding is it is very hard, if not impossible?

SoGent · Jan 28, 2013

joiji said:
My understanding is it is very hard, if not impossible?

thanks. that makes sense to me as shell doesn't seem to take well to 'sealing' in any way

Cuttingboard · Jan 28, 2013

justinkapur said:
I love that loafer in the bottom row 3rd from the right

Any details on what last it is?

I need the loafer summer, anyone know where I can buy it?

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