How about modern rich Russian style?

English words ,in particular ,have been heavily influenced by French....

The list is too long to give all of them and i'm not only talking of the obvious ones...
Linguists friends told me that latin and French were the main influence.....

Dieu et mon droit are on every British passports,that's maybe a clue....

The French are also originated from the Francs tribe coming from Hungary and eastern Europe.....They have been invaded and influenced by the Romans and also by the norse ,Hungarians and so on...

I know you would like to rewrite history but sorry guys the French has very heavily influenced the English language....

Richard Lionheart did not speak a word of English and was using the place to finance his crusades....
He is living in the south-west part of France ,Aquitaine ,domain of his mother Alienor...

Sorry to the American but you're somewhere speaking a language influenced by the French ..Oh horror!!!!!

Originally Posted by lasbar

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Sorry to the American but you're somewhere speaking a language influenced by the French ..Oh horror!!!!!

Sorry to the French, but you're somewhere eating McDonald's and drinking Starbucks..Oh horror!!!!!

Do you people ever actually use the words "nouveau riche" in real life or is it something you just like to throw around on the internet?

I swear, if I ever heard someone say "nouveau riche" in real life...


EDIT: Oh, and, when I hear people speak French, I can't understand a word of what they are saying even though I speak English and various Slavic languages and can understand a good deal of Spanish.

Originally Posted by odoreater

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Do you people ever actually use the words "nouveau riche" in real life or is it something you just like to throw around on the internet?

I swear, if I ever heard someone say "nouveau riche" in real life...

The only person I've heard use it in real life was talking about her own family.

Originally Posted by Teacher

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Then see my answer above. Your friends are most certainly wrong. A quick Google search will give you a good start; a trip to your local university library will give you a more complete picture.

Right right. So which word in English is Anglo-Saxson?

Originally Posted by odoreater

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Do you people ever actually use the words "nouveau riche" in real life or is it something you just like to throw around on the internet?

I swear, if I ever heard someone say "nouveau riche" in real life...


EDIT: Oh, and, when I hear people speak French, I can't understand a word of what they are saying even though I speak English and various Slavic languages and can understand a good deal of Spanish.
Generaly we will just say Nouveau, but the implication is the same. A spade a spade and all.

Originally Posted by odoreater

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Do you people ever actually use the words "nouveau riche" in real life or is it something you just like to throw around on the internet?
I use the phrase, or its Norwegian equivalent, frequently. My job is a lot about introducing new money to old art, so I find it a useful expression to describe where different contacts are "coming from". It's just sociology, get over it.

Originally Posted by lasbar

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English words ,in particular ,have been heavily influenced by French....

The list is too long to give all of them and i'm not only talking of the obvious ones...
Linguists friends told me that latin and French were the main influence.....

Dieu et mon droit are on every British passports,that's maybe a clue....

The French are also originated from the Francs tribe coming from Hungary and eastern Europe.....They have been invaded and influenced by the Romans and also by the norse ,Hungarians and so on...

I know you would like to rewrite history but sorry guys the French has very heavily influenced the English language....

Richard Lionheart did not speak a word of English and was using the place to finance his crusades....
He is living in the south-west part of France ,Aquitaine ,domain of his mother Alienor...

Sorry to the American but you're somewhere speaking a language influenced by the French ..Oh horror!!!!!

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

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Right right. So which word in English is Anglo-Saxson?

I can see you guys know absolutely nothing about linguistics, nor about language categorization. You just insult me and Americans, but provide no substancial arguments. First, lasbar, the Franks were Germanic. Charlamagne spoke Frankish, which was a Germanic language. I already said that some -- some -- words in modern English are from French. They are, however, not a majority. There are more English words of Germanic origin than of Norman origin. Even so, having some words of French origin does not make English a Romance language. You have completely ignored what I wrote about syntax, morphology, and phonetics/phonology and attacked me, saying I'm rewriting history.

So you won't take my word for it. How about this? Maybe you guys can actually learn something.

http://softrat.home.mindspring.com/germanic.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

http://www.ned.univie.ac.at/publicat...n/germaans.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/hel/hel.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...glish_language

http://www.m-w.com/help/faq/history.htm

http://www.krysstal.com/english.html

This took me just a few minutes, and that's just from Google. For books, you can look up the likes of Pyles and Algeo's Origins and Development of the English Language, Baugh's A History of the English Language, A Cultural History of English (forget the author's name), and The Story of English. For what many consider to be the definitive work on the subject, there's the outstanding but daunting Cambridge History of the English Language (8 volumes, I think).

Now, find me one credible source -- just one -- that classifies English as a Romance language.

Originally Posted by Teacher

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I can see you guys know absolutely nothing about linguistics, nor about language categorization. You just insult me and Americans, but provide no substancial arguments. First, lasbar, the Franks were Germanic. Charlamagne spoke Frankish, which was a Germanic language. I already said that some -- some -- words in modern English are from French. They are, however, not a majority. There are more English words of Germanic origin than of Norman origin. Even so, having some words of French origin does not make English a Romance language. You have completely ignored what I wrote about syntax, morphology, and phonetics/phonology and attacked me, saying I'm rewriting history.

So you won't take my word for it. How about this? Maybe you guys can actually learn something.

http://softrat.home.mindspring.com/germanic.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

http://www.ned.univie.ac.at/publicat...n/germaans.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/hel/hel.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...glish_language

http://www.m-w.com/help/faq/history.htm

http://www.krysstal.com/english.html

This took me just a few minutes, and that's just from Google. For books, you can look up the likes of Pyles and Algeo's Origins and Development of the English Language, Baugh's A History of the English Language, A Cultural History of English (forget the author's name), and The Story of English. For what many consider to be the definitive work on the subject, there's the outstanding but daunting Cambridge History of the English Language (8 volumes, I think).

Now, find me one credible source -- just one -- that classifies English as a Romance language.


I give you one credible source: reality. The language spoken in GB or US has more French/Latin roots than Anglo/Saxon ones, thus making it Romanic/Latin based language.

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

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I give you one credible source: reality. The language spoken in GB or US has more French/Latin roots than Anglo/Saxon ones, thus making it Romanic/Latin based language.

Wow. RJman was right. You're an idiot.

Everybody stop for a minute, open the Webster at any page, look up the etymology of all the words. Do this several times, then start posting again.

Originally Posted by gdl203

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I just got back from the south of France and it's unbelievable how many rich Russians now vacation and spend their money there. St Tropez was the most surprising - Russian could be heard everywhere around the port and old town. The ratio of girls to men was about 4:1 and some of these chicks were hotter than August

There's a long tradition of the Russian aristocracy vacationing or seeking refuge on the Riviera (and into Italian Liguria). Not that I'm suggesting those you saw were aristocrats.

PS: you subjected yourself to St Trop in August?

Originally Posted by Fabienne

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PS: you subjected yourself to St Trop in August?
His annual date with La Bardot.

From the point of view of an Asian (my friend, not me, I hate the French language but love English) who is fluent in English, can speak/read French, has taken German and knows some Dutch, English and German have more similar gramatic structures than French has to English. Just because some of the words are derrived from Latin languages doesn't mean that the language descended from that language.

Case in point:
Japanese

Japanese has alot of Englishized words in their Katagana which are derived from English (Co-Hi means Cofee) but Japanese didn't evolve from English.

Cantonese (Chinese)

Same as Japanese.
Won Gou Wa = Cloud Brother Wa = Vancouver

I looked up English in Websters
English

Etymology: English \\Eng"lish\\, adjective. [Anglo-Saxon Englisc, from Engle, Angle, Engles, Angles, a tribe of Germans from the southeast of Sleswick, in Denmark, who settled in Britain and gave it the name of England. Compare to Anglican.]. (references)

Originally Posted by Fabienne

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PS: you subjected yourself to St Trop in August?

Wanted to show my wife the horror of the St Trop scene (she had never seen). We stayed in Ramatuelle though and it was only for a couple days on the road between Cassis and Eze