Vass Shoe Trees?

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by forex

I've seen 3 piece trees made by Vass,how does one get those?Special order?Surcharge?

Same price - you just need to ask when ordering. I prefer the hinged ones personally, except for boots - the 3-piece ones are really more convenient for boots

 

[forex]

Who has the most number of Vass shoes?Speak up!

 

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by forex

Who has the most number of Vass shoes?Speak up!
Probably between VR, AP and Vox?

I'm a small-timer with only 6 pairs in and 1 on the way.

Here's a shot of 5 of them

 

[forex]

Have you tried shell on U lasted shoes? I want to get a chukka boot on U last in shell and a wholecut (maybe whiskey shell?).Vox,AP have small feet,they are small timers

 

[gdl203]

They're all on the U last - shoes and boots. I'm personally not a fan of shell at all so I wouldn't order a Vass MTO in shell.

 

[Johnnyb]

Originally Posted by gdl203

Probably between VR, AP and Vox?

I'm a small-timer with only 6 pairs in and 1 on the way.

Here's a shot of 5 of them

GDL...what are the colors on the three from the left? Thanks

 

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by Johnnyb

GDL...what are the colors on the three from the left? Thanks

1 = spectator bordeaux/brown
2 = cognac
3 = bordeaux
4 = navy
5 = black

 

[Montesquieu]

Originally Posted by forex

Who has the most number of Vass shoes?Speak up!

I'll sneak into the lead before big timers come to play. 8 pairs.

 

[forex]

Originally Posted by Montesquieu

I'll sneak into the lead before big timers come to play. 8 pairs.

pics or it didn't happen

 

[orthofrancis]

I guess you could sand them, but it might make them harder to insert if the wood fibers "grabs" the leather. I do like cedar trees, just because I love the way cedar smells.

I too think it's about the shape, since if the shoes are that wet, then the moisture would stay in the tree - like stuffing a damp rag into your shoe.. Moisture would still evaporate out thru the outside of the leather, but with the creams, waxes and polishes, it might be delayed.

I personally think moisture isn't a big deal, as long as the shoes get to dry out for a while. Foot odor comes from bacteria (Pseudomonas, Strep, Staph, etc), which need moisture to survive (think trench foot that soldiers get). Once the shoes dry out, the bacteria tend to die, and thus the shoes tend not to smell. Most bacteria cant live on a dry surface for more than 48-72 hours. THus rotating your shoes, helps to keep them from smelling.

 

[Johnnyb]

Originally Posted by gdl203

1 = spectator bordeaux/brown
2 = cognac
3 = bordeaux
4 = navy
5 = black

Many thanks.

 

[Fuuma]

Originally Posted by gdl203

1 = spectator bordeaux/brown
2 = cognac
3 = bordeaux
4 = navy
5 = black

bordeaux=burgundy, speak englishe dude. I like the navy ones and the boots (not shown).

 

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by Fuuma

bordeaux=burgundy, speak englishe dude. I like the navy ones and the boots (not shown).

I think Vass calls that color Bordeaux. Please take your complaints to them

 

[voxsartoria]

The problem with the "shoe trees should be unfinished to 'absorb' moisture from the shoe" theory is the following: okay, let's say that your tree and your shoe reach humidity equilibrium.

Then what? Where does the moisture absorbed by the tree go? The tree is inside the shoe.

Some of it evaporates directly from the tree, but in a good mass market tree, most of the surface area is in contact with the shoe. So, it gives up its moisture back into the shoe as the shoe evaporates moisture into the air. An exception would be a hollowed hinged tree like a Saint Crisipin's, which has additional surface area within the tree for evaporation into the air.

So, a typical unfinished tree like, say, a Woodlore, doesn't dry the shoe, but it keeps both itself and the shoe damp for a longer period...albeit at a lower average dampness point.

A finished tree will make the shoe dry faster. What is unknown is whether slower or faster drying is better...but generally speaking, shoe trees from good makers have historically been finished.

Vass trees are finished, just not with the depth of laquer you might see from brands like G&G.

I think the story about cedar trees is that it is a response to trying to come up with a product that would make use of otherwise unusable wood.

How important all these differences are is anyone's guess...the most important thing is that you use a tree, and if so, a lasted one if possible.


- B

 

[luk-cha]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

The problem with the "shoe trees should be unfinished to 'absorb' moisture from the shoe" theory is the following: okay, let's say that your tree and your shoe reach humidity equilibrium.

Then what? Where does the moisture absorbed by the tree go? The tree is inside the shoe.

Some of it evaporates directly from the tree, but in a good mass market tree, most of the surface area is in contact with the shoe. So, it gives up its moisture back into the shoe as the shoe evaporates moisture into the air. An exception would be a hollowed hinged tree like a Saint Crisipin's, which has additional surface area within the tree for evaporation into the air.

So, a typical unfinished tree like, say, a Woodlore, doesn't dry the shoe, but it keeps both itself and the shoe damp for a longer period...albeit at a lower average dampness point.

A finished tree will make the shoe dry faster. What is unknown is whether slower or faster drying is better...but generally speaking, shoe trees from good makers have historically been finished.

Vass trees are finished, just not with the depth of laquer you might see from brands like G&G.

I think the story about cedar trees is that it is a response to trying to come up with a product that would make use of otherwise unusable wood.

How important all these differences are is anyone's guess...the most important thing is that you use a tree, and if so, a lasted one if possible.


- B

+1 this man is talking sense