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Piobaire

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Just so everyone is clear on this I've worked with hundreds of elevator guys over the years and the vast majority of of them were good people but every trade has its share of these guys. One in particular I knew was a kid we called Earnie the Gnat. Earnie, Brandon and Earnies namesake all seem to share particularly similar qualities.

Did they have teeny, tiny feet? Asking for a troll.
 

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just so we clear this up further … did you and your 100 elevator guys get told what to do and how to do it when you were working with them? I just wanted to be clear since you know that’s what we are doing here.

There’s only a few foreman if not just 1 and a couple mechanics on a job site at any given time on a huge job. That’s me and my family. I don’t know what you do … I’d love to know what local and company you work for. Because you can’t possibly work for “100’s of elevator guys” and I haven’t crossed you. This is surely nothing but talking out your butt here.

If you worked at the job sites I’m at you would answer to me just like I answer to my boss but he’s not at the site unless it’s massive and there’s a foreman present. There’s nobody at any given job site that i show up too that I answer to other then my dad if he’s there and that would be the next casino we’re working on or the next ballpark. Not the target that’s elevator broke down and they need somebody to fix it. For example my dad would be your boss if for some reason you made it past elevator school and passed all your tests and had a good word out in by somebody that you are capable of doing this work and not going to get laid off like all the other normal workers. (You’d be like me) if I liked you enough to back you. You made it seem like the type of work I do 100 other people could do. My moms dad proved he could work at my company for how ever many years he worked. So did her brother and so did my dad and so am I. There’s a reason me and family get paid the money we do. Just trust me on this. There’s only a few people in the world that can do the work I do and I don’t think you or the 100 of people you’re referring to are anything more then “helpers” as we like to call them. They are nice people but they don’t have a van and haven’t passed the mechanics test. (And might not unless they have help from their family in some sort of way.. they could pass and still not get in unfortunately) people like the ones you just described get laid off too often for being normalized and not needing your work because my company needs to pay the people that can go to a location with a broken elevator at it and it get fixed by somebody knowing what they’re doing or what they even need to fix the problem at any given time in the day. I am trying my best to be that person for the company. If I can continue to do this for years hopefully I can be in my dads situation one day and be recognized as that same person who can show up to a job site as the boss, fix the problem but I would be at bigger job sites like casinos or buildings still being built. That’s along way away from now. Not everyone in my family is a foreman. They are all elevator mechanics tho. These 100 people that your failing to normalize are nothing more then people listening to me and cleaning my van or handing me tools I need and hoping one day they don’t get laid off. You can Pass the mechanics tests and start making the big bucks but you still have to go to school the company will put you threw.

exusce me for being skeptical that you did all this and have came in contact with “100 other normal elevators guys” I’ve been a helper myself everybody has to start out somewhere. Local 5 is not a place that accepts “100’s of elevator guys” again there’s a reason why I get such good benefits. People die on these jobs if you aren’t extra safe. There’s a good friend of mine and his dad worked the same compan. He was crushed by an elevator when he was in the pit. I don’t know the story but the elevator came down on him at Harrahs casino in Chester pa. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/new..._tries_to_cut_mayor_s_pay.html?outputType=amp

My dad was the only schindler employee aloud to
Escort police to the scene and run any equipment/the elevator itself because I know it wasn’t fully finished yet to retrieve the body.

There’s a lot of money to be made when your employer can send you to any job site other then some huge time consuming job site that a building isn’t finished being built yet (that I referred to like revel casino in or citizens bank park) and you get the job done. Our company is very good because while Otis is considered “the best” elevator company we still get those HUGE jobs
All the time. And we get paid more then Otis? What’s not to like… other then a little banter when a Otis van pulls next to a Schindler van at a red light.

Look There’s been other deaths and safety has gotten a lot better then it used to be. We need need people like these low experience “helpers” that are aspiring mechanics and foreman’s exc to keep us safe…i was one for years and made penny’s compared to what my dad makes. I still do make penny’s compared to what he makes and 40 years of a pensions going to be a nice cash out for him.

you know this may be a good problem to have in terms of finance’s but …. I’m struggling to separate myself from my work. Everyday I have a decision after work on my free time do I just call my gf on my company iPhone? Or do I call her on my Personal phone? Do I just take the work van to bar/film show or do I go home and use my 2004 Silverado with 13k miles that I bought new in 04 that gets no use ever when I have a gas card and a company issued van. I can use the same card and go spend thousands of dollars at a sears or some place like that and it would be free. Even if I paid my own money my company would reimburse me …

I’m just bringing all this stuff up because your not gonna normalize my job. There’s few and far between people that can do what im aspiring to do at the highest level.

you don’t even want to be in my situation. It’s impossible to work and live a separate life. But it’s worth it if you want your kids to have the best insurance they could possibly have until
Their 26 exc.

The dam audacity

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venividivicibj

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just so we clear this up further … did you and your 100 elevator guys get told what to do and how to do it when you were working with them? I just wanted to be clear since you know that’s what we are doing here.

There’s only a few foreman if not just 1 and a couple mechanics on a job site at any given time on a huge job. That’s me and my family. I don’t know what you do … I’d love to know what local and company you work for. Because you can’t possibly work for “100’s of elevator guys” and I haven’t crossed you. This is surely nothing but talking out your butt here.

If you worked at the job sites I’m at you would answer to me just like I answer to my boss but he’s not at the site unless it’s massive and there’s a foreman present. There’s nobody at any given job site that i show up too that I answer to other then my dad if he’s there and that would be the next casino we’re working on or the next ballpark. Not the target that’s elevator broke down and they need somebody to fix it. For example my dad would be your boss if for some reason you made it past elevator school and passed all your tests and had a good word out in by somebody that you are capable of doing this work and not going to get laid off like all the other normal workers. (You’d be like me) if I liked you enough to back you. You made it seem like the type of work I do 100 other people could do. My moms dad proved he could work at my company for how ever many years he worked. So did her brother and so did my dad and so am I. There’s a reason me and family get paid the money we do. Just trust me on this. There’s only a few people in the world that can do the work I do and I don’t think you or the 100 of people you’re referring to are anything more then “helpers” as we like to call them. They are nice people but they don’t have a van and haven’t passed the mechanics test. (And might not unless they have help from their family in some sort of way.. they could pass and still not get in unfortunately) people like the ones you just described get laid off too often for being normalized and not needing your work because my company needs to pay the people that can go to a location with a broken elevator at it and it get fixed by somebody knowing what they’re doing or what they even need to fix the problem at any given time in the day. I am trying my best to be that person for the company. If I can continue to do this for years hopefully I can be in my dads situation one day and be recognized as that same person who can show up to a job site as the boss, fix the problem but I would be at bigger job sites like casinos or buildings still being built. That’s along way away from now. Not everyone in my family is a foreman. They are all elevator mechanics tho. These 100 people that your failing to normalize are nothing more then people listening to me and cleaning my van or handing me tools I need and hoping one day they don’t get laid off. You can Pass the mechanics tests and start making the big bucks but you still have to go to school the company will put you threw.

exusce me for being skeptical that you did all this and have came in contact with “100 other normal elevators guys” I’ve been a helper myself everybody has to start out somewhere. Local 5 is not a place that accepts “100’s of elevator guys” again there’s a reason why I get such good benefits. People die on these jobs if you aren’t extra safe. There’s a good friend of mine and his dad worked the same compan. He was crushed by an elevator when he was in the pit. I don’t know the story but the elevator came down on him at Harrahs casino in Chester pa. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/new..._tries_to_cut_mayor_s_pay.html?outputType=amp

My dad was the only schindler employee aloud to
Escort police to the scene and run any equipment/the elevator itself because I know it wasn’t fully finished yet to retrieve the body.

There’s a lot of money to be made when your employer can send you to any job site other then some huge time consuming job site that a building isn’t finished being built yet (that I referred to like revel casino in or citizens bank park) and you get the job done. Our company is very good because while Otis is considered “the best” elevator company we still get those HUGE jobs
All the time. And we get paid more then Otis? What’s not to like… other then a little banter when a Otis van pulls next to a Schindler van at a red light.

Look There’s been other deaths and safety has gotten a lot better then it used to be. We need need people like these low experience “helpers” that are aspiring mechanics and foreman’s exc to keep us safe…i was one for years and made penny’s compared to what my dad makes. I still do make penny’s compared to what he makes and 40 years of a pensions going to be a nice cash out for him.

you know this may be a good problem to have in terms of finance’s but …. I’m struggling to separate myself from my work. Everyday I have a decision after work on my free time do I just call my gf on my company iPhone? Or do I call her on my Personal phone? Do I just take the work van to bar/film show or do I go home and use my 2004 Silverado with 13k miles that I bought new in 04 that gets no use ever when I have a gas card and a company issued van. I can use the same card and go spend thousands of dollars at a sears or some place like that and it would be free. Even if I paid my own money my company would reimburse me …

I’m just bringing all this stuff up because your not gonna normalize my job. There’s few and far between people that can do what im aspiring to do at the highest level.

you don’t even want to be in my situation. It’s impossible to work and live a separate life. But it’s worth it if you want your kids to have the best insurance they could possibly have until
Their 26 exc.

The dam audacity
Fok would be proud at the length of this post
 

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Dude's been laying pipe for like 600 years.
Corrected
just so we clear this up further … did you and your 100 elevator guys get told what to do and how to do it when you were working with them? I just wanted to be clear since you know that’s what we are doing here.

There’s only a few foreman if not just 1 and a couple mechanics on a job site at any given time on a huge job. That’s me and my family. I don’t know what you do … I’d love to know what local and company you work for. Because you can’t possibly work for “100’s of elevator guys” and I haven’t crossed you. This is surely nothing but talking out your butt here.

If you worked at the job sites I’m at you would answer to me just like I answer to my boss but he’s not at the site unless it’s massive and there’s a foreman present. There’s nobody at any given job site that i show up too that I answer to other then my dad if he’s there and that would be the next casino we’re working on or the next ballpark. Not the target that’s elevator broke down and they need somebody to fix it. For example my dad would be your boss if for some reason you made it past elevator school and passed all your tests and had a good word out in by somebody that you are capable of doing this work and not going to get laid off like all the other normal workers. (You’d be like me) if I liked you enough to back you. You made it seem like the type of work I do 100 other people could do. My moms dad proved he could work at my company for how ever many years he worked. So did her brother and so did my dad and so am I. There’s a reason me and family get paid the money we do. Just trust me on this. There’s only a few people in the world that can do the work I do and I don’t think you or the 100 of people you’re referring to are anything more then “helpers” as we like to call them. They are nice people but they don’t have a van and haven’t passed the mechanics test. (And might not unless they have help from their family in some sort of way.. they could pass and still not get in unfortunately) people like the ones you just described get laid off too often for being normalized and not needing your work because my company needs to pay the people that can go to a location with a broken elevator at it and it get fixed by somebody knowing what they’re doing or what they even need to fix the problem at any given time in the day. I am trying my best to be that person for the company. If I can continue to do this for years hopefully I can be in my dads situation one day and be recognized as that same person who can show up to a job site as the boss, fix the problem but I would be at bigger job sites like casinos or buildings still being built. That’s along way away from now. Not everyone in my family is a foreman. They are all elevator mechanics tho. These 100 people that your failing to normalize are nothing more then people listening to me and cleaning my van or handing me tools I need and hoping one day they don’t get laid off. You can Pass the mechanics tests and start making the big bucks but you still have to go to school the company will put you threw.

exusce me for being skeptical that you did all this and have came in contact with “100 other normal elevators guys” I’ve been a helper myself everybody has to start out somewhere. Local 5 is not a place that accepts “100’s of elevator guys” again there’s a reason why I get such good benefits. People die on these jobs if you aren’t extra safe. There’s a good friend of mine and his dad worked the same compan. He was crushed by an elevator when he was in the pit. I don’t know the story but the elevator came down on him at Harrahs casino in Chester pa. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/new..._tries_to_cut_mayor_s_pay.html?outputType=amp

My dad was the only schindler employee aloud to
Escort police to the scene and run any equipment/the elevator itself because I know it wasn’t fully finished yet to retrieve the body.

There’s a lot of money to be made when your employer can send you to any job site other then some huge time consuming job site that a building isn’t finished being built yet (that I referred to like revel casino in or citizens bank park) and you get the job done. Our company is very good because while Otis is considered “the best” elevator company we still get those HUGE jobs
All the time. And we get paid more then Otis? What’s not to like… other then a little banter when a Otis van pulls next to a Schindler van at a red light.

Look There’s been other deaths and safety has gotten a lot better then it used to be. We need need people like these low experience “helpers” that are aspiring mechanics and foreman’s exc to keep us safe…i was one for years and made penny’s compared to what my dad makes. I still do make penny’s compared to what he makes and 40 years of a pensions going to be a nice cash out for him.

you know this may be a good problem to have in terms of finance’s but …. I’m struggling to separate myself from my work. Everyday I have a decision after work on my free time do I just call my gf on my company iPhone? Or do I call her on my Personal phone? Do I just take the work van to bar/film show or do I go home and use my 2004 Silverado with 13k miles that I bought new in 04 that gets no use ever when I have a gas card and a company issued van. I can use the same card and go spend thousands of dollars at a sears or some place like that and it would be free. Even if I paid my own money my company would reimburse me …

I’m just bringing all this stuff up because your not gonna normalize my job. There’s few and far between people that can do what im aspiring to do at the highest level.

you don’t even want to be in my situation. It’s impossible to work and live a separate life. But it’s worth it if you want your kids to have the best insurance they could possibly have until
Their 26 exc.

The dam audacity

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This whole "@Piobaire has a few weeks off between jobs" thing is really working out for the forum
 

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Oh, no- I think Philadelphia is exactly the right place for someone like you.
 

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Oh, no- I think Philadelphia is exactly the right place for someone like you.
Lol thinks of a posts that has no merit or meaning for interactions because you have no friends that’s nice …. It’s just these people in the threads that are shocked when they get treated the same way that they treat people. You guys wouldn’t survive in the real world
 

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Lol thinks of a posts that has no merit or meaning for interactions because you have no friends that’s nice …. It’s just these people in the threads that are shocked when they get treated the same way that they treat people. You guys wouldn’t survive in the real world

How do we tell which people live in the "real world"? Are the rest of us in the Matrix? Are only blue collar jobs "real"?

Asking for a friend.
 

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How do we tell which people live in the "real world"? Are the rest of us in the Matrix? Are only blue collar jobs "real"?

Asking for a friend.
Here’s something I don’t get

It’s not in my blood to say something to somebody in a effort to make their day any worse then the day I’m already having. Like mr 6ix9ine guy up there ^^ … and some how I get called a asshole yet when you see people like him he gets praised … it’s just proof of trolls everywhere
 

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Here’s something I don’t get

It’s not in my blood to say something to somebody in a effort to make their day any worse then the day I’m already having. Like mr 6ix9ine guy up there ^^ … and some how I get called a asshole yet when you see people like him he gets praised … it’s just proof of trolls everywhere
I assure you no one is praising @SixOhNine.....or mr 69 for that matter
 

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Here’s something I don’t get

It’s not in my blood to say something to somebody in a effort to make their day any worse then the day I’m already having. Like mr 6ix9ine guy up there ^^ … and some how I get called a asshole yet when you see people like him he gets praised … it’s just proof of trolls everywhere

EVERYONE IS A TROLL EXCEPT ME!
 

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Here’s something I don’t get

It’s not in my blood to say something to somebody in a effort to make their day any worse then the day I’m already having. Like mr 6ix9ine guy up there ^^ … and some how I get called a asshole yet when you see people like him he gets praised … it’s just proof of trolls everywhere

You literally bragged about a story where you refused to get out of an uber and called the cops on the guy and when the cops came, you lied to them. How do you reconcile that with this statement. Or had you been arrested by an asshole customer earlier in the day?
 

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