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I will be there on Saturday, wearing my Frodsham, and will be interested to see how it goes.
My bid is in… probably should of went 750… what is done is done.
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Omega confirming white dial Speedmaster on their IG. They just posted "Now in White", "05.03.204", "#moonwatch".
White dial speedy has bad legibility IMO. Maybe they'll do something like the white dial explorer II with the high contrast black hands. That would make it a win in my book.

A Moonwatch with a black dial and white subs would be perfect but that's the Speedy Tuesday so we probably won't see that again as a standard release.
 

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White dial speedy has bad legibility IMO. Maybe they'll do something like the white dial explorer II with the high contrast black hands. That would make it a win in my book.

A Moonwatch with a black dial and white subs would be perfect but that's the Speedy Tuesday so we probably won't see that again as a standard release.
seems pretty high contrast from the photos taken of it on daniel craig's wrist in december
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After thinking about it a few times, I finally bought one of the Delugs CTS rubber straps for what is, naturally, my least sporty watch. The thing that was holding me back from trying one of these sooner was my general discomfort with with most deployant clasps I've had on for any real length of time, but the one used here seems to have had the edges softened in the right places. Wore it this way most of the weekend without any signs of discomfort. Also, I've really become quite addicted to olive green straps with my more neutral-toned watches.


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After thinking about it a few times, I finally bought one of the Delugs CTS rubber straps for what is, naturally, my least sporty watch. The thing that was holding me back from trying one of these sooner was my general discomfort with with most deployant clasps I've had on for any real length of time, but the one used here seems to have had the edges softened in the right places. Wore it this way most of the weekend without any signs of discomfort. Also, I've really become quite addicted to olive green straps with my more neutral-toned watches.


[url=https://flic.kr/p/2pBtUoC]

That looks ******* awesome.
 

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I still don't get the appeal of Roger. Some really overt/lazy mistakes under the guise of being handmade. He uses a CNC now too.

Handmade1 from Greubel Forsey is completely handmade and done so to a very very high quality standard.
I think my opinion of Roger Smith is known, I think he is somewhat lacking considering his mentor… but that is for another day.
Funny you should mention Handmade 1, I know of one for sale. Actually, has been on the market for a couple of months, may have made it to C24. 43mm is a deal breaker.

Checked, Watchbox have listed it on C24.
 

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I still don't get the appeal of Roger. Some really overt/lazy mistakes under the guise of being handmade. He uses a CNC now too.

Handmade1 from Greubel Forsey is completely handmade and done so to a very very high quality standard.
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The G-F Hand Made is such a batshit crazy watch that if I could afford it - I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I was interviewing their CEO in Dubai last year and he reckoned that they could now make 3 or 4 of them a year - the initial estimate was one per annum.
 

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Had a bit of a liquidity event. Seriously thinking about a Gauthier Logical 1 or perp cal from Mb&f. Any other ideas for openworked god tier stuff?

Personally, I think the MB&F Perpetual or Sequential is the way to go. This is my choice:

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I'd love to own something from the mind of Stephen McDonnell.

I still don't get the appeal of Roger. Some really overt/lazy mistakes under the guise of being handmade. He uses a CNC now too.

Handmade1 from Greubel Forsey is completely handmade and done so to a very very high quality standard.
I think my opinion of Roger Smith is known, I think he is somewhat lacking considering his mentor… but that is for another day.
Funny you should mention Handmade 1, I know of one for sale. Actually, has been on the market for a couple of months, may have made it to C24. 43mm is a deal breaker.

Checked, Watchbox have listed it on C24.

Roger Smith at the prices he used to charge - alright, I get it. Roger Smith at the prices he is now charging? Come on! Absolutely ridiculous. Particularly given the role of CNC machines in the process.

This is probably a rude take: I think the entire premise of building a watch from soup-to-nuts is silly. Roger Smith is very capable of making a complete watch. But I do not understand the draw of one person making the entire watch. To borrow an example from my line of work: some lawyers are strong writers; others are technicians at breaking down an expert witness; others are strong oral advocates. Some work demands an experienced attorney; some work is busy work that an associate can make quick work of. Some experienced partners are unbelievable in court yet incapable of drafting a brief. Conversely, I know associates who can do quick research that I would not put in front of a client, let alone a jury. Personally, I want the best, most optimized person on each particular job.

I get the draw of original Philippe Dufour - but he was something close to a finishing artist. Roger Smith, from a number of watches that I have seen, is nothing close to Dufour. A lot of it, to me, is the novelty associated with the story. That novelty is lost on me when the starting price is nearly half a million.
 

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I really want to like so many of these independent makers, but I can’t shake how ridiculous these _look_.

Not a popular opinion, I’m sure, but nearly every independent that gets posted here just looks extremely puerile in terms of the design aesthetic (I know the engineering, materials and finishing are all exceptional, but they all look a bit like arcade toys, no?).

I’m not advocating lights-off-missionary-only watches, but I also think these pooped-on-my-chest-while-being-choked-by-a-little-person-wearing-a-bearsuit watches might be missing the mark?

Edit: excluding pmeis’ Armin Strom. That **** looks killer!
 
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I really want to like so many of these independent makers, but I can’t shake how ridiculous these _look_.

Not a popular opinion, I’m sure, but nearly every independent that gets posted here just looks extremely puerile in terms of the design aesthetic (I know the engineering, materials and finishing are all exceptional, but they all look a bit like arcade toys, no?).

I’m not advocating lights-off-missionary-only watches, but I also think these pooped-on-my-chest-while-being-choked-by-a-little-person-wearing-a-bearsuit watches might be missing the mark?

Can you post some examples you do like, and some examples you do not like?
 

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Personally, I think the MB&F Perpetual or Sequential is the way to go. This is my choice:

20230328_MBandF_040_2200px.jpg


I'd love to own something from the mind of Stephen McDonnell.




Roger Smith at the prices he used to charge - alright, I get it. Roger Smith at the prices he is now charging? Come on! Absolutely ridiculous. Particularly given the role of CNC machines in the process.

This is probably a rude take: I think the entire premise of building a watch from soup-to-nuts is silly. Roger Smith is very capable of making a complete watch. But I do not understand the draw of one person making the entire watch. To borrow an example from my line of work: some lawyers are strong writers; others are technicians at breaking down an expert witness; others are strong oral advocates. Some work demands an experienced attorney; some work is busy work that an associate can make quick work of. Some experienced partners are unbelievable in court yet incapable of drafting a brief. Conversely, I know associates who can do quick research that I would not put in front of a client, let alone a jury. Personally, I want the best, most optimized person on each particular job.

I get the draw of original Philippe Dufour - but he was something close to a finishing artist. Roger Smith, from a number of watches that I have seen, is nothing close to Dufour. A lot of it, to me, is the novelty associated with the story. That novelty is lost on me when the starting price is nearly half a million.

Agreed 100%. Personally have 0 issues with things not being in-house etc.
 

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