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the vass budapester full brogue, you like it or not like it

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Son Of Saphir, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. bullethead

    bullethead Senior member

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    i've always wanted a pair for heavier cords, moleskins, etc.
     
  2. fritzl

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    sorry for derailing your informative and friendly post. the spelling is wrong. this can be misleading for potential buyers, when they try to order.

    it's Alt Wien which derives from Vienna and not from wine.

    both designs - budapester and alt wien, not to forget the Wiener(quarter brogue), are coming out of the friendly rivalery between these two capitals of shoemaking.

    in the meantime you can order these designs on various lasts, while vass makes the authentic versions on their budapester and 3636 last.

    glad that we share the same love for this craftmanship.
     
  3. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    behave :crackup:
     
  4. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    while these are nice, the longwing version is a modern variation of the authentic budapester design. actually on this particular picture the toe box seems to be not as distinct(shark mouth) as normal, anyway.
     
  5. Moss

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    I like them - a distinctly Central European style. I would not criticize Budapesters for lacking sleekness no more than I would a pair of Alden Longwings.
     
  6. fritzl

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    fwiw, i have seen bespoke numbers which are sleek like a e.g. g&g due to the shape of the customer's feet. too many myths around this style, imo.
     
  7. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    well, no need for wondering.

    iirc, you have read the vass book and you've been intrigued by the skills and knowledge involved in the process of shoemaking, as is my uncle an retired engineer, who never really cared for his shoes, until he joined me on a trip to a shoemaker and my lastmaker.

    understood that arch support is not a given thing in rtw or the austro-hungarian approach in bespoke making. afaik, vass builts in a slight support. someone more involved with vass might be chime in here. in my personal experience with custom made footwear, the arch support is finally installed after the breaking in period. normally a month after delivery or in other words after a dozen of wearings.

    regarding your request about their ability as walking shoes. i would say: absolutely. the characteristics of a derby, where the lacing can be adjusted a bit better, in combination with the obligatory double sole makes them a good companion on day to day walking surfaces. actually i'm doing a lot with my derbies.

    hope this helps
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    yep. it's a good book.

    in the chapter about tree- and lastmaking you can see my lastmaker. great guy. he really knows his stuff and he's a pleasure to deal with.
     
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  10. Gdot

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    I just ordered it. Thanks for mentioning it.
     
  11. Verniza

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    I don't undermine his knowledge shoes. I'm just messing around with the guy. Doesn't make me racist when I don't even know his race in the first place.


    I prefer my shoes to have a chiseled toe. It's too round for my liking but that said it's just a stylistic personal preference. The Anthony Cleverley last for example is my dream shoe.


    This. It's pretty funny when you see his posts about shoe construction. It's very detailed and enlightening, his typing style however makes the whole post more interesting.
     
  12. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    FTFY. :)

    I suspect SOS is gently poking fun at the semi-illiterate, attention-span-limited crowd whose writing/speaking style owes more to Twitter than any desire to have meaningful or amusing conversation.
     
  13. Gdot

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    Thank you for correcting my spelling. It has never been one of my stronger skills. Without automatic spell check (and a secretary to correct my punctuation) I am quite often more than a bit lost. :embar:
     
  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    No big deal...I'm not generally concerned with spelling but this early in the morning it left me a little confused at first.
     
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    well, despite the fact that it doesn't attract me at all(stylistic preference) and all the cultural references. it wouldn't look flattering on me. people of a similar built, who own them, have proven this already. in general, i have a wholistic approach, so it's about the overall proportions for me. the shoes should ideally complement the appearance of a person and not stand out.
     
  16. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    they are they are :fonz:
    shoe look more good in real life,
    photo not look good.
    me have 3 pair of cordovan,
    it favourite rtw shoe.
    Look good with 360 goiser.
     
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  17. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    The shoes very good choice.
    Not good in photo but perfect in real life.

    The post,
    it very very good.
    Budapester is elegant shoe and not clunky,
    it not big in real life,
    it small and elegant.
    It very charming and feel very soft of foot,
    it like sneaker in some way.
    Very comforble and good if man on his feet all day and need to walk in day.


    Suede budapester by Kolecho best suede rtw shoe ever! :slayer:

    Yes!

    Good walk shoe but it not shoe for fast walk.
    arch support good for rtw shoe.

    Yes. :nodding:
     
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  18. Slewfoot

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    Me too! They will be purchased soon. :^)
     
  19. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Me like how Vass do old tradition design with that above.
    All new budapester not have the old design where heal counter brogue join lacing quarter brogue line. :(


    Yes,
    slight arch support.
     
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  20. fritzl

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    you're a funny dude. how fast is fast?
     

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