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[Ambulance Chaser]

Sorry about your boy, Slim. Demico looked like he had good side control, but slipped attempting to transition to mount and got reversed in a scramble. If it's any consolation, Schaub is probably one of the best fighters in the house -- his ground defense was excellent.

Rashad looked like he was pouring it on a bit thick with the whole "I care about all the fighters in the house, even the ones not on my team" bit. Did Demico say that accurately reflected what happened?

 

[Brian SD]

He's probably being punished by the power of editing for the sake of ratings. This season is very obviously a good guy vs. bad guy season.

Sorry about the fight, TS. He really did look good out there, though. The first professional showing on this run of the series, no doubt.

 

[Teacher]

Well, that was BY FAR the best fight so far, from both fighters. I know Demico's your buddy, Slim, and I agree he was doing well, but that was one hell of an anaconda. Just about perfectly executed. He made a momentary mistake in leaving his head and neck exposed inside the arm like that, but once it was in, I just couldn't see him getting out. The moment Shaub started turning, I knew it would take a miracle to get him out. Not many top-level guys would have escaped that one.

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

Plz excuse the sloppy face, I was down about three G+T at this moment and was deep in the throes of emotional turmoil.

Holy ****, dude! You're black???

 

[Johnny_5]

Rampage is a *************. He went out to get food and arrived 5 minutes before the fight and just left him after he lost like that? I used to hate Rashad because I thought he was a cocky douchebag, but he seems like a really down to Earth chilled out guy. Much like Tito was as a coach.

 

[Mauro]

It's ahrd to say really how these guys are in real life.

I haven't watched the fight yet but I look forward to watching it.

TS- who does your boy trian with??? I am sure if he has connections now but if he wants to train out east for a while we have a super soild camp and our west coast alliance is strong as well.

 

[Tokyo Slim]

Originally Posted by Mauro

TS- who does your boy trian with??? I am sure if he has connections now but if he wants to train out east for a while we have a super soild camp and our west coast alliance is strong as well.
Currently he's training with Mark Messer at Ring Sports United. And has at least rolled locally with all the "big guys" up here. So far I've heard for the future, Greg Jackson for sure and maybe Couture have offered/talked to him as well as people in CA and etc. Demico said he wants to learn from anyone he can. He's probably going to travel around and do time with everyone.

 

[Tokyo Slim]

Originally Posted by Teacher

Holy ****, dude! You're black???

only my soul

 

[Mauro]

TS- that's good to hear.
My camp trains with some guys in the UFC now. Ryan BJJ is sick and has amazing connections.
Our stand up is crazy legit.
If he wants to come out we will take good care of him.

 

[Lendo]

Good fight from both guys last night. Rampage and his "coaches" are real pieces of **** for not being there for Demico before the fight. His one slip up was the attempted transition to mount, other than that he looked great and seemed to be in total control. I'm sure he'll go on to do great things in mma.

 

[LA Guy]

Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser

Sorry about your boy, Slim. Demico looked like he had good side control, but slipped attempting to transition to mount and got reversed in a scramble. If it's any consolation, Schaub is probably one of the best fighters in the house -- his ground defense was excellent.

Rashad looked like he was pouring it on a bit thick with the whole "I care about all the fighters in the house, even the ones not on my team" bit. Did Demico say that accurately reflected what happened?

Good coaches I've trained with have widely varying opinions on mount position. It is clearly a dominant position, but submissions from mount (without transitioning out of mount), are sort of limited, and expose openings for escapes. For example, if you transition to an arm bar directly from mount, there are several opportunities for your opponent to roll into you (and leave you in guard) before you have straightened out your hips. If you bully grip a mounted opponent in the transition to armbar, you leave an opening for your opponent to roll out into a scramble. Eddie Bravo talked about this, and he has some interesting submissions from the gangster roll mount position, but some of those submissions require crazy flexibility in order to do without compromising your base. Of course, in MMA, there is always the option of GnP from mount, which used to be pretty much the end of the fight, but nowadays, even novice fighters know enough to slip out the back. You could mount slightly lower, which takes away the backdoor option, but you are also not as able to GNP, and your opponent can clinch you up easier. And of course, if you mount too low and haven't snaked out his hips and legs so that he has no leverage, he could reverse you or snake out into guard.

All this to go to say that Randy's camp may be a good camp for Demico. It would take advantage of his wrestling background, there are plenty of big guys to work with, and he'd probably learn the beauty of working from side control and half guard. On the flip side, I've heard second-hand that the camp is brutal and that guys get injured regularly, sometimes to the point that they have to take time off. Not going to criticize Randy Couture, but that's not something that I'd want.

 

[Slopho]

This is an interesting turn: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Fresh off of his quick ring exit.

 

[Oxnard]

Originally Posted by Slopho

This is an interesting turn: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Fresh off of his quick ring exit.
Man I really want Forrest to win here but his head is not in the game at the moment, getting destroyed by Anderson Silva seems to have really taken it out of him. I saw him in an interview recently where he just kept dumping on himself, was kinda sad. Plus he might be psyched out from Ortiz beating him years ago. Especially after Ortiz trash talking Coleman, oh man I want him to lose very badly. It is pretty short notice overall for Forrest, hopefully he comes out on top with this.

 

[Teacher]

I'm guessing that fight won't be a barn-burner, but who knows?

 

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by Johnny_5

Rampage is a *************. He went out to get food and arrived 5 minutes before the fight and just left him after he lost like that? I used to hate Rashad because I thought he was a cocky douchebag, but he seems like a really down to Earth chilled out guy. Much like Tito was as a coach.

I pinged a friend who worked camera on TUF 10, and his take was that Rampage doesn't care either way how his fighters fared - he's just focused on his fight with Rashad. Apparently it's not just editing.

 

[Slopho]

Originally Posted by Thomas

I pinged a friend who worked camera on TUF 10, and his take was that Rampage doesn't care either way how his fighters fared - he's just focused on his fight with Rashad. Apparently it's not just editing.

I read an interview not too long ago where Rampage totally regreted the way he was the first time he was a coach on TUF and vowed to really change and invest time and effort into being a coach. Only words I guess.