The 'Keep Burberry British' campaign

[vanity]

Do you think Burberry really makes 1 piece-jumpsuits? Like the ones you wore to sleep in as a child, minus the footies? Or cell phones? Or tennis shoes? Or combat boots?

They'll glue that pattern to anything, they don't give a ****. As long as it has the Burberry pattern, it's legit to them.

 

[tiger02]

To the rappers? They glue patterns? I thought they "laid traxx" or whatever the whippersnappers call it nowadays.

 

[lakewolf]

Oops, I steped in without noticing into a racist thread....

Better go away of it fast....

 

[Joel_Cairo]

who in god's name actually says "a group of blacks"??

 

[vanity]

Raises hand.

That's what they were. If it was a group of Asians or Polish dudes, I would've pointed that out too. Or when I roll by A|X and see groups of Guidos. Same thing. I call 'em like I see 'em.

 

[RJman]

Originally Posted by vanity

If it was a group of Asians or Polish dudes, I would've pointed that out too. Or when I roll by A|X and see groups of Guidos. Same thing. I call 'em like I see 'em.
Asians, Polish, Guidos. I hear they prefer "Guido-American".

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by vanity

Raises hand. That's what they were. If it was a group of Asians or Polish dudes, I would've pointed that out too. Or when I roll by A|X and see groups of Guidos. Same thing. I call 'em like I see 'em.
I am just shocked that you don't call Asians Orientals. Or even Ornamentals.

 

[Violinist]

Vanity's language is crass to be sure but please all of you men of higher morality, tell me where he's wrong? Exactly what is the primary market for Coach, Burberry, and Faux Gucci print? It is a fact. There is nothing racist about making that observation. It is well documented by scholars who deal with hip hop and other urban cultural issues.

There's a big problem where mention of a black person (or people) in a sentence that involves something bad or undesireable creates this anti racist furvor. Yes, I'd agree that Vanity goes about it in the wrong way, but if you take away the distasteful language, there's a lot of truth there.

 

[JBZ]

Perhaps Vanity could get together with Shooman so they could discuss their hatred of various religious and ethnic groups over a glass of the ol' midstream and a high colonic.

 

[vanity]

Originally Posted by iammatt

I am just shocked that you don't call Asians Orientals. Or even Ornamentals.

I don't think all asians are orientals. I had an asian buddy who'd get all bent outta shape whenever we'd call him oriental. This created much glee for the Korean girl who called him TheOriental relentlessly.

 

[vanity]

Originally Posted by Violinist

There's a big problem where mention of a black person (or people) in a sentence that involves something bad or undesireable creates this anti racist furvor.

Thank god i'm not the only one who recognizes this.

 

[imageWIS]

Hugo Boss also has a large part of its crap, I mean merchandise made in China.

Jon.

 

[Joel_Cairo]

Originally Posted by vanity

Raises hand.

That's what they were. If it was a group of Asians or Polish dudes, I would've pointed that out too. Or when I roll by A|X and see groups of Guidos. Same thing. I call 'em like I see 'em.

This was my point, the black guys are a group of adjectives: "blacks", while poles or people of asian heritage are nouns, "dudes", with an ethnic adjective qualifying them. So if you "call em like you see em", you see black people as somehow unworthy of a noun of their own, but instead wholey defined by their visual attributes?

 

[Violinist]

Originally Posted by Joel_Cairo

This was my point, the black guys are a group of adjectives: "blacks", while poles or people of asian heritage are nouns, "dudes", with an ethnic adjective qualifying them. So if you "call em like you see em", you see black people as somehow unworthy of a noun of their own, but instead wholey defined by their visual attributes?

I have to agree.

I'm from South Africa, and I'm white. My family's history there goes back like 300 years. If there's one thing we're sensitive to is rhetoric where racial matters are concerned. "Blacks" is a word you'd maybe here in Transvaal or somewhere else up north where the less "civilized" white people live. It's a word they use because they can no longer say kaffir or "*****r". Calling them blacks is fairly backward. If you say black people, I don't think anyone is going to have a problem with that. But you might as well have just said pigmys.

I stand behind the content of vanity's arguments, but even as a fairly unpolitically correct person, you have to show some basic level of respect for people.

 

[skalogre]

I just find the disparity between Burberry's image in the USA and their image in ole Blighty entertaining