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Ten best jeans

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by LA Guy, Feb 23, 2005.

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  1. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    Brian, I am about 70% convinced to order a pair of the APCs you linked (standard). How do they fit once washed? And how low is the rise?

    And where can one find the Uniqlos in the US, or at least in English? Maybe I will wait to look at them in Japan in May.
     
  2. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Fred Segal/HTC in LA, and Stels in Boston just got a shipment. They have the Morhy in the crinkle wash for $215, and the Fine (straightleg) in the raw denim, for $185. The summer line (brand new stuff) is all in 12 ounce denim. I am willing to pick them up for you if you PM your size and paypal me the price plus 5.5% tax (they are over $150) plus about $10 for shipping (if in US) and T-tickets (I have to get down there) plus the 4% paypal gouge. Comes out to just over $205, I think.

    Your choice, either way
     
  3. mrprlover

    mrprlover Senior member

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    LA.
    You surprised me by not having Helmut Lang on the list. You've always been a big fan since back in the days (when I used to post, about a yr. ago).

    Guess you've moved onto Nudie and others...

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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Don't get me wrong, I am a huge HL fan, and they get honorable mention for sure, but for the retail price, any of those on the list beat it, the Nudie (98 Eu) and APC ($109) especially.
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    Didn't mean to be confusing - anyone could answer this question. [​IMG]
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    The New Standards have about an 10.5 inch rise, and fit great. Shrinkage (as long as you are cold washing them and hang drying them) is a couple of percent, tops. Buy em. They rock. I personally like the Anglaise fit better myself, but that's myself.
     
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    Originally Posted by j,Feb. 25 2005,08:35
    Brian, I am about 70% convinced to order a pair of the APCs you linked (standard). How do they fit once washed? And how low is the rise? And where can one find the Uniqlos in the US, or at least in English? Maybe I will wait to look at them in Japan in May.
    Didn't mean to be confusing - anyone could answer this question. [​IMG]
    The rise is a pretty solid medium, I would say. Much lower than 501s, but higher than PDC GTO or Diesel Zathan. j, the best I can think of would be online UK retailers, but I tried doing some searches and cannot find any online stores with them. A friend of mine bought them in Japan so that's how I've seen them. I highly recommend that you pick up a pair when you go to Japan. My friend's mother is bringing me home a pair when she gets back in a couple weeks.
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    Excellent, thank you both. Sounds just about right for what I'm looking for. As to the Uniqlos - source in US? Should I plan to bring some back with me in May?
     
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    for uniqlos, refer to my edited post. [​IMG]
     
  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    j.,

    If you see dark washes (rigid or semi) in the Uniqlos in heavy denim (say 13.25 ounces and above) count me in for a couple of pairs, size 33. I like a true straightleg, but prefer a slight bootcut. If no 33 available, and the cut is true to size, just one pair, in 34. I hate tight jeans.
     
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    Still in Japanese Brian. I just nearly ordered a pair of kids jeans, damn you. Please repost the link (just do a new post) for the site in English.
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    I will have to remember to bring my scale. I'll see what I can do, PM me or email with as much info as you can get from the website so I can be sure to get it right.
     
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    for uniqlos, refer to my edited post.
    Still in Japanese Brian. I just nearly ordered a pair of kids jeans, damn you. Please repost the link (just do a new post) for the site in English.
    Haha, well the Japanese site is good for pictures and not much else, although with limited knowledge of Japanese I was able to decipher some parts (mostly things like "serubaji denimu" - selvage denim). I dont think there is a single place online to find really detailed information about Uniqlos. they have a UK site http://www.uniqlo.co.uk/, but it doesn't even mention men's jeans.
     
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    Speaking of tight jeans, Im starting to shy away from my Sevens. They are getting a little tight, especially now that Ive gotten back into cycling and soccer. When I first bought them they were very comfy. I don't like baggy jeans though.

    Any suggestions? Or should I stick with my HLs?

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    I don't know that I consider sevens to be very tight, to be honest. On most men that I've seen there is a huge imbalance between the cut in the different areas (thighs which are tight, seat, which is saggy and bubbly, and calves which are very loose).

    Definitely try PDC, it's the same sort of goal as Sevens (lightweight, comfortable denim, modern fit with a visible boot cut), but the cut is much more balanced, and the seat is better constructed.
     
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    Originally Posted by LA Guy,Feb. 24 2005,16:38
    Or I'll send the Triad after you, as Styleman insinuated once.
    That was another really strange aspect of Styleman's postings on that thread. Â What is a member of the British upper class doing with Chinese gangsters?
    Actually, he said "Traids" and we never established whether that meant something other than Triads, or was simply the product of the poor typing and spelling skills of the purported British upper class. Sorry, Brian SD, couldn't resist.
     
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    (Ambulance Chaser @ Feb. 24 2005,13:46)
    Or I'll send the Triad after you, as Styleman insinuated once.
    That was another really strange aspect of Styleman's postings on that thread. What is a member of the British upper class doing with Chinese gangsters?
    Actually, he said "Traids" and we never established whether that meant something other than Triads, or was simply the product of the poor typing and spelling skills of the purported British upper class. Sorry, Brian SD, couldn't resist.
    Please don't apologize. I regretted making that whiny post seconds after I did it, but I'm usually not the type to delete something just because I'm embarrassed by it.
     
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    LA Guy- Thanks for the kind offer on the Corpus, but I live in the Hollywood Hills. I'll just go to the denim-bar in Fred Segal on Melrose to check these out. I haven't been in there in a while. It's the only store in L.A. that feels oppressively exclusive to me - I hate getting bad service from tragically hip twenty year olds, and there are too many celebrities running around. But sometimes an expert is manning the denim-bar and they can be pretty helpful, especially considering how these jeans have such different shrinkage patterns. I have a friend that worked there years ago - he has a closet full of vintage and japanese denim, all hung full length on clip hangers, all hand washed and line dried. People get pretty obsessed. I bought my Denimes there several years ago. I'm hoping they have a good selection of those as well. I checked out Denime's line on their website - Denime Jeans - they have an entire line of reproductions of various historical Levi's and Lee's. I assume that they are all better than original, kind of like modern restored muscle car's often are. Check out the links to how their jeans look after a few years. The Corpus Jeans look interesting. I emailed them from their website last night and they directed me to Fred Segal and HTC. I like the look of the Morphy Bootcut, as you suggested. Thanks.
     
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    Could use some advice on 501s. How do you know if a pair of old 501s are a good vintage? Particularly on eBay? What do you look for?
     
  20. LA Guy

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    I've only ever gotten good service there, but at that time I was a tragically hip twenty something who knew way too much about jeans (I can tell denim weight by feel, correct about 80% of the time - sometimes processed denim throws you off) and I did some styling for semi-celebrities (the exclusive C-list) there.  

    Actually, I was at the Santa Monica place a couple of weekends ago to show my fiancee, and although I made it clear from the beginning that I wasn't really interested in buying anything (they didn't have the exact jean I was looking for, in the exact size), I got to talking to one of the salesguys about jeans and cuts and the new season and the upcoming season, and about wearing in jeans, etc... He even commented positively on the hand customization of my Da'mage Rekkos.  He left to talk to another (real) customer, and came back again to chat a little more.  People who work at Fred Segal - HTC - are sort of like guys who work at used record stores.  If you look like part of the tribe and can walk the walk and talk the talk, they are much friendlier.  It's like that scene in High Fidelity.  Sad, sort of.
     
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