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Technical Outerwear

abunny

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For those of us who already have a gore-tex shell is their much argument for also getting an insulated field jacket? I was toying with the idea of getting one this year but it seems like you could layer any slim insulator jacket under a shell and get exactly the same function + the ability to use it just as a rain jacket. Ended up deciding to save money and just suffered through the NY winter but next year am planning to drop 150 on a down liner to toss under my Nomad and just be done with it.

Depends if you're too lazy to pull on multiple layers. In general when style isn't too much of a concern, you can just wear a technical midlayer under our shell. It'll actually work better: the layers aren't sewn together so the system is easier to articulate.



That wetworker shell looks OK, but has stupid details. The back hem should be lower, cuff adjuster should be the die-cut laminated stuff (sewn adjusters always, always degrade before the rest of the jacket), the contrast fabric around the chest pocket is silly.
 
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That wetworker shell looks OK, but has stupid details. The back hem should be lower, cuff adjuster should be the die-cut laminated stuff (sewn adjusters always, always degrade before the rest of the jacket), the contrast fabric around the chest pocket is silly.
Yeah the hem is high which will mean a wet arse when it rains but I guess thats the trade off if you want that look.

From a users POV I actually think self fabric bonded with a high stich rate is currently the best option for velcro cuff closures although it will be interesting to see how Isaoras new Star Trek sounding 'Ultrasonic welding fusion method' holds up and whether it's better than traditional stitch and tape construction for all the seams.
Generally I've found most of the higher quality brands cuffs usually hold up pretty well but depending on the face fabric you very occasionally get a little fraying as it's obviously a high wear area. I hate the rubbery ones which look awful and wear really badly but thankfully they now seem to be consigned to the tech dustbin.

The most effective and hardwearing cuff closure I've used is from outdoor specialist Montane on the Endurance event and Fast Alpine Stretch Neo jackets.

13 stitch count, bonded, low profile embedded velcro with the option of a rachet when climbing or a cleaner look without. I't would be cool to see some tech brands use the same.

By the "contrast fabric around the chest pocket" Do you mean the zip? If so I agree they look ugly but it would seem many brands are chosing to make a feature out of them as YKK designed them to be uncovered.
 
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I mean these. (dead bird jacket)
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They're indestructible.

Yes I meant the zip. It's double silly since they storm-flapped the main zip, so chest pocket zip stands out even worse. Cover both or none.
 

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I mean these. (dead bird jacket)


They're indestructible.
Yeah my Alphas have them. They do the job and are alright-ish on black jackets but look really bad on other colours.
 

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It seems like Veilance doesn't have the "one true pant" I'm looking for, which would be like the Voronoi but with additional pockets. The cargos don't have any decent colors and the Apparat are too short.

Has anyone had experience washing the Voronoi pant? It's not dryer-safe, and it suggests dry-cleaning, maybe because of the DWR? Is there a big difference in the water resistance? There's no way I'm drycleaning my pants...

I'm looking for some pants that hover on the border between "respectable" and "cyberpunk"... Outlier is too much on the respectable side. Surprisingly hard to find what I'm envisioning.
 
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I have two pairs of Voronois and love them. I've washed them in the machine before (inside out) with no ill effects.
 

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Has anyone had experience washing the Voronoi pant? It's not dryer-safe, and it suggests dry-cleaning, maybe because of the DWR? Is there a big difference in the water resistance? There's no way I'm drycleaning my pants...

You can just wash (delicate cycle) then rack dry them. Washed mine at least a dozen times.
 

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I want the moto style Acronym pants so bad.


It'd be sweet to produce my own tech pant in a motocross-style cut
 

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Purchased a pair of trousers made out of ventile fabric. ZERO stretch, but it had amazing cotton-y texture and smell (I have been almost exclusively wearing Outlier for years) and locally made. The employee did warn me about 'cardboard effect' and that the pants take ages to dry, but I guess its okay to have a pair of trousers that is polar opposite to what I have. Can't wait for a rainy weather to try them out.
 

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