Should I return new shirts with raised collars?

[neyus]

Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba

Burn the stays!

+ 1

 

[Sartrolliast]

You need something like this:

 

[mack11211]

^^Collar bars are nice, but more formal.

Shirts with buttondown collars are nice as well, but more informal.

Don't wear them together.

 

[luciosilla]

I bought a couple of shirts from Hawes and Curtis - before, that is, doing due diligence on SF, which would have informed me that the "new" H and C is inferior iteration of the "old" one. Anyway, I ordered the high, cutaway collars; when I got the things and tried to wear one, I realized that by "high" they really meant it - the thing came up to my chin like a rigid, suffocating turtleneck. I couldn't even button it, and I've got a long, geeky pencil neck. So to Goodwill they went - it wasn't worth the expense and bother to send them back to England.

 

[alliswell]

Originally Posted by Howfener

They're machine washable, but I just can't iron the sleeve properly, especially near the wrists where they're pleated.

Lay the sleeve flat along the board by grabbing the seam under the arm, putting it down close to you and smoothing the arm away from your body. Iron into each pleat first, then flatten them down.

 

[SkinnyGoomba]

Originally Posted by Sartrolliast

You need something like this:

You dont button the collar if you're using a collar pin.

 

[tjc4golf]

Originally Posted by Sartrolliast

You need something like this:

Originally Posted by mack11211

^^Collar bars are nice, but more formal.

Shirts with buttondown collars are nice as well, but more informal.

Don't wear them together.

Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba

You dont button the collar if you're using a collar pin.

Gotta disagree with Mack and ******...

I agree with Mack that collar bars add a level of formality. Usually I don't like button down collars with ties... I think that these collars tend to be too informal for a tie and it's hard to correctly pull off this look. It can be done but the fail/success ratio is tilted far towards fail. And I usually don't like clothes pin tie bars. But in this instance I like the look. I think the tie bar (especially the fact that it is a clothes pin tie bar; I don't think any other would work here) bridge the formality gap between the button down collar and the tie.

 

[mack11211]

The B/D collar with a tie has been a hallmark of American style for at least three quarters of a century. Here's Gregory Peck romancing Audry Hepburn with American style in 1953's ROMAN HOLIDAY: