Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jr Mouse, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

    Messages:
    11,562
    Likes Received:
    1,728
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Didn't they blow up a whole planet in Star Wars? Then the Death Star which probably had hundreds of thousands of people in it. Do any of the prequels have a death toll like that? It's not like anybody was worried about all the dead clones and smashed robots.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2015


  2. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    

    Yes, the Empire blew up Alderann, a non-military target. Which made them the bad guys. Now we are supposed to root for the guys who militarize the galaxy and murder millions of "clones"? Clones aren't people? These are the same guys who created and used the clone army to start with. Disposable people. Great.
     


  3. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

    Messages:
    11,562
    Likes Received:
    1,728
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Alderaan was a "non military" target? I always thought Tarkin was just humoring Leia when he said that. Isn't it where she was going with the stolen plans, the planet whose diplomatic flag she was flying under on her spy mission? I note that her ship was armed and loaded down with soldiers, which sort of belies her claim that the planet had no weapons.

    Nobody likes blowing up planets, or weddings or Japanese cities or sowing salt, but doing it doesn't necessarily make you the bad guys.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2015


  4. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

    Messages:
    11,562
    Likes Received:
    1,728
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Now seems like a good time to point out what a cold-blooded, perfidious murderer Leia is. The very first time we see her, long after the fight is hopeless, she's cornered by stormtroopers who loudly announce their intent to stun her... and she takes the opportunity to murder one of them with a real gun. Then in Return of the Jedi she strangles Jabba even though he's not physically a danger. By the end of the movie she's obviously figured out that imperials aren't allowed to kill her, as she repeatedly feigns surrender only to open fire on them again when the opportunity presents itself.

    I assume we're going to learn in the new movie that she's leading some "resistance" because she was indicted for war crimes.
     


  5. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    Leia said it, Tarkin said it. You're just inventing things out of thin air.

    Yes, blowing up planets makes you a bad guy.
     


  6. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    

    Nazis are coming to capture you, resistance is not immoral. You are chained by an evil slug, resistance is not immoral. She committed no war crimes as recognized on this planet, or any other to my knowledge.
     


  7. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

    Messages:
    11,562
    Likes Received:
    1,728
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    

    Other than everything else she says in the scene being a lie, you mean, plus the whole opening scene where her ship from the planet with "no weapons" is shown to be covered with guns and full of troops.

    And raising your hands and then immediately shooting your would be captor is a war crime everywhere and always has been.
     


  8. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    The ship was headed to Alderaan, it wasn't an Alderaan ship. Even if it were, blasters are hardly a "weapon" when compared to a Star Destroyer. Are you suggesting we all have weapons in our kitchens because we have butter knives in them? That's the view England takes, and it's fucking stupid.

    I don't remember Leia putting her hands up and indicating she was surrendering, when was that?

    I'm not here to defend the Rebels. They are equally guilty of committing mass atrocities and destroying civilizations. But these attacks on Leia's character are nonsense. This is Russia vs. Daesh - both fucking evil corrupt regimes.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2015


  9. SixOhNine

    SixOhNine Senior member

    Messages:
    1,930
    Likes Received:
    970
    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2012
    And they're both bigoted as fuck. In a galaxy with probably hundreds of intelligent, advanced species, humans are always in charge. Seems sketchy.
     


  10. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    17,869
    Likes Received:
    3,034
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Location:
    All of time and space, everything that ever was or
    Hey, is there a new Star Wars movie coming out? I think I might have seen an ad or something. What's the deal?
     


  11. Kaplan

    Kaplan Senior member

    Messages:
    4,198
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Location:
    In Hedonic Decline
    *
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2015


  12. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    

    It looks like shit. Enjoy paying a double sawbuck to the Mouse, I see nothing I want any part of in the trailers.
     


  13. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    17,869
    Likes Received:
    3,034
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Location:
    All of time and space, everything that ever was or
    Shit. That bad? Is it staring Jar Jar or something?
     


  14. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    Not you, the Disney Mouse.
     


  15. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    17,869
    Likes Received:
    3,034
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Location:
    All of time and space, everything that ever was or
    As much as I'd enjoy a double sawbuck that was clear brah.
     


Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by