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[Stillblade]

CPs are way better looking, bottom line. No one would have ever batted an eye at those terrible SLPs if Hedi Slimane's name wasn't attached to the company (big surprise that the guy who posted them has Hedi as his avatar)

 

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[LA Guy]

CPs were so yesterday, SLP for the plain black and whites if you ask me slimmer better silouhuette. <-i cannot spell that word and auto-correct ain't working

not to mention SLP gold inscription over that obnoxious random coding on the CPs in the heels wear no one can see cuz thats what its all about innit.

hate the CP sole as well and that includes RAFS.

He said "fashion sneakers" which by that I think he means those particular SLP sneakers not the house itself. What he's saying might be a bit of an exaggeration but I don't think he's far off. Certain New Balance models or Stan Smiths have been the same (ish) for 20+ years. CPs definitely have that possibility. Whether or not they are still in-vogue may change though.

Common Projects and SLP sneakers (and I've seen them side by side, modeled using the same clothes) have a radically different silhouette.

Common projects are definitely the more distinctive. The soles have a uniformly high sidewall, and the toe is somewhat rounder. On the bad side, they can look rather blobby (I'm not a fan of the famous Achilles). On the good side, they have a very distinctive "old school sneaker" look and feel. On women, they look "cute".

SLP sneakers have that angled and rounded sole that makes the entire shoe look a lot more streamlined. On the downside, they look a little too streamlined, a little too fussy. I struggled to describe this, but someone described them better than I could. They look a bit like an interpretation of a classic sneaker as envisioned by Coach. I think that they can be stylied to look cool, but I think that they are sort of a miss, especially considering how distinctive some other SLP footwear is.

 

[dieworkwear]



SLP sneakers have that angled and rounded sole that makes the entire shoe look a lot more streamlined. On the downside, they look a little too streamlined, a little too fussy.  I struggled to describe this, but someone described them better than I could.  They look a bit like an interpretation of a classic sneaker as envisioned by Coach.  I think that they can be stylied to look cool, but I think that they are sort of a miss, especially considering how distinctive some other SLP footwear is.

Hm, I have the SLP high tops and CP Achilles Lows. I actually think your descriptions would be better switched. CPs are a lot more streamlined. SLPs are a lot rounder.

FWIW, CPs feel a bit nicer, while the SLPs feel like crap. I agree if Hedi's name wasn't attached to them, few people would care.

Quick pic:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[LA Guy]

Hm, I have the SLP high tops and CP Achilles Lows. I actually think your descriptions would be better switched. CPs are a lot more streamlined. SLPs are a lot rounder.

FWIW, CPs feel a bit nicer, while the SLPs feel like crap. I agree if Hedi's name wasn't attached to them, few people would care.

Quick pic:

I'm talking about the sole itself. The "CP" sole is just the now ubiquitous Margom Serena sole, which has a unform sidewall height, and which goes straight down to the outsole. The sole used in SLP sneakers is not built like that. The sole is thicker at the heel and thinner at the toe, and the outsole rounds at the sole.

Cheers,

Fok.

 

[dieworkwear]



I'm talking about the sole itself.  The "CP" sole is just the now ubiquitous Margom Serena sole, which has a unform sidewall height, and which goes straight down to the outsole.  The sole used in SLP sneakers is not built like that.  The sole is thicker at the heel and thinner at the toe, and the outsole rounds at the sole.

Ah, I get it. Yea, from an angled view, the SLPs do look a lot more streamlined because of the sole.

Really surprised that, given the price point, Slimane couldn't be bothered to use better materials.

 

[LA Guy]

Ah, I get it. Yea, from an angled view, the SLPs do look a lot more streamlined because of the sole.

Really surprised that, given the price point, Slimane couldn't be bothered to use better materials.

Why should he? Premium materials are a PITA to source and sometimes, to work with, and sneakers and jeans are essentially like fragrances - money in the bank. While would you go increase costs when there is no demonstrated or even perceived need to do so? Do you think that it would be a nice conversation for him to have with his board members? "I want to decrease our margins for no really great reason."

 

[needhelp123]

Great discussion guys i read it all, its my honest opinion. You're right the toe box of the Achilles is round thats another thing i don't like of them.

 

[MarioImpemba]

Can we talk about how the Stark collar is just the right amount of roundedness?

 

[London]

Krish you have no clue what your talking about. CP's took the stan smith and elevated it. They opened up a new niche in the marketplace and a ton of brands rushed in. It has nothing to do with YSL. Look at how many brands look like CP knockoffs now.

 

[long_knives]



Can we talk about how the Stark collar is just the right amount of roundedness?

This thread surely is the best one in which to discuss roundedness: http://www.styleforum.net/t/99388/great-back-doors-nsfw

 

[dieworkwear]



This thread surely is the best one in which to discuss roundedness: http://www.styleforum.net/t/99388/great-back-doors-nsfw

Hm, I think you pasted the wrong link.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/217855/the-new-official-toj-thread-updates-complaints-etc/0_20

 

[LA Guy]

Krish you have no clue what your talking about. CP's took the stan smith and elevated it. They opened up a new niche in the marketplace and a ton of brands rushed in. It has nothing to do with YSL. Look at how many brands look like CP knockoffs now.

So, to derail this further, I like a lot of Common Project shoes, but I actually do not like the Achilles, which I find to be really blobby but with a low profile. I actually much prefer the actual Stan Smith. Or the exaggerated Visvim version of it. Doesn't take away from the contribution of Common Projects to their little corner of the fashion world, and that they have become the de facto uniform of the yupster creative.

 

[jas0nt]



disregard my rant.

Done it long before you told us to.

 

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