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I have the Kempton in black calf, the Pimlico in dark suede and the Ryder in snuff on crepe so different boots for different styles.. It's personal choice but I would not wear the Ryder with a suit, like the Kempton it's too bulky and casual, lovely but not formal enough for me.
 

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I have the Kempton in black calf, the Pimlico in dark suede and the Ryder in snuff on crepe so different boots for different styles.. It's personal choice but I would not wear the Ryder with a suit, like the Kempton it's too bulky and casual, lovely but not formal enough for me.

Thanks for your help.
 

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I have the Kempton in black calf, the Pimlico in dark suede and the Ryder in snuff on crepe so different boots for different styles.. It's personal choice but I would not wear the Ryder with a suit, like the Kempton it's too bulky and casual, lovely but not formal enough for me.

Just seeking more clarification, but while it was not formal enough for you, can you see others wearing it with a suit? I work in IT and wear a suit, but also don't want to appear too formal.
 

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Hello to you all. First post here.
I ordered a pair of Loake Gladstones (size 9, G, swing last) and sadly, they are quite big. Left foot is okay, but right one is loose when I tighten the laces to max. (my heel rises when I walk)
I haven´t yet tried tongue pad or insole. I was wondering how much difference does 1/2 size down do, I mean in width and length, in millimeters?

My other Loakes - Islington monk shoes (size 9, F, capital last) fit like a, well shoe. Quite tight but still okay.
I have quite wide feet and high instep so I though G fitting Capitals would be more comfortable and now I am torn between 2 options, sell the Gladstones and buy new ones in size 8 1/2 or try to fix these with insole and or tongue pad.
 

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Hello to you all. First post here.
I ordered a pair of Loake Gladstones (size 9, G, swing last) and sadly, they are quite big. Left foot is okay, but right one is loose when I tighten the laces to max. (my heel rises when I walk)
I haven´t yet tried tongue pad or insole. I was wondering how much difference does 1/2 size down do, I mean in width and length, in millimeters?

My other Loakes - Islington monk shoes (size 9, F, capital last) fit like a, well shoe. Quite tight but still okay.
I have quite wide feet and high instep so I though G fitting Capitals would be more comfortable and now I am torn between 2 options, sell the Gladstones and buy new ones in size 8 1/2 or try to fix these with insole and or tongue pad.


 



The Swing last is notoriously huge, and some shoe retailers were advising customers to drop down half a size when buying anything on that last.
It used to be labelled as an F fitting, and it was only recently that Loake relabelled all Swing last shoes as G. No doubt due to everyone finding that their shoes were too big.
 

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Hello everyone, thought it'll be best to get some advice here. I'm looking to get the loake Lincoln in brown suede (loafer last) but I'm not quite sure how to size it.. I'm a UK6 for all my capital last shoes. Should I go with the same size?
 

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Definitely the Pimlico is the only one I would say is dark enough for suits. I am actually sized up in all 3 to 10.5. I take 10 in all other shoes. The Kempton is on the shortest of lasts, the Pimlico on the most tapered (but good width) and the Ryder length close to the Kempton but the G fitting is wider. Hope this helps.
Just one more question - as I'm normally an 11G, and since the Pimlico come in only F sizes, would going up half a size (i.e., to 11.5F) be sufficient?
 

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Just ordered some Jones brogues for work will the quality be good?

Also any thoughts on Loakes Chelsea boots? I am after some black leather ones for under £200
 

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I'm looking to get the loake Lincoln in brown suede (loafer last) but I'm not quite sure how to size it.. I'm a UK6 for all my capital last shoes. Should I go with the same size?


According to the data available at Sizeadvisors:

Going up half a size would work, but the fit will not be as good, if the Capitel last in F fits very well (ie. 4 out of 4 stars). There's no information when happens when using the same size.

Hope this helps.
 

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According to the data available at Sizeadvisors:

Going up half a size would work, but the fit will not be as good, if the Capitel last in F fits very well (ie. 4 out of 4 stars). There's no information when happens when using the same size.

Hope this helps.


That's total codswollap, the loafer last does not fit smaller than the capital.
 

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That's total codswollap, the loafer last does not fit smaller than the capital.


It's quite normal that two people can have different experiences and opinions about the relative fit of two lasts (including width).

To quote you:

Your Chester's are a size 9 and your Buckinghams/Strands are 8.5s!? That's very odd.


So, how do you know that your experience is a better predictor than another man's experience?
 

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It's quite normal that two people can have different experiences and opinions about the relative fit of two lasts (including width).

To quote you:
So, how do you know that your experience is a better predictor than another man's experience?

I work with shoes and know the average trends for the different lasts used especially Loake. This means that I am not using one mans feet (my own) as an indicator I am using hundreds of peoples feet. Whilst there are always exceptions these become less if they have a pair that fits on one last which is comparable to another. So if I tell you that it is odd that a pair of shoes fits a particular way then you can be pretty sure that what I'm saying is quite accurate based on a fair bit of research and experience.
 

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It's quite normal that two people can have different experiences and opinions about the relative fit of two lasts (including width).

To quote you:
So, how do you know that your experience is a better predictor than another man's experience?
Also the Chester was designed to be bigger so you can wear it with a thick sock, thats the whole point of a country shoe. So if it happens that you take a larger size in a more formal/city style than a larger country style of course its going to be unusual....
 

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I work with shoes and know the average trends for the different lasts used especially Loake. […] So if I tell you that it is odd that a pair of shoes fits a particular way then you can be pretty sure that what I'm saying is quite accurate based on a fair bit of research and experience.


If you've mentioned this earlier, the discussion could have been prevented. Note that I didn't say you're wrong. I didn't even say I am right. I merely transmitted some information to the OP with the explicit note that I have no information about other sizes.

We could have also saved some time if you'd just answered OP's question.
 

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