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Impressions of Vienna

fritzl

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Originally Posted by Sator
a soft 'sch' and a hard 'sch' for example, and perhaps there is a way of notating this in Slavonic languages which use the Roman alphabet.

Sator, thanks for your tremendous report.

Knize is pronounced with a soft -sch, and the it is like Knee -chez, like a french bistro i.e. Chez Alfons.
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Thanks for the great report. That brings back found memory of my visit. I am look forward to your Budapest report. There will be a Budapest report, right?

Originally Posted by bengal-stripe
Nice report, Sator.

About Knize, the name is of Czech and not German origin. So the 'z' is pronounced like a German "˜sch' (Engl. "˜sh') = Knische.
(For English speakers: the "˜K' is pronounced, like in "˜Karl' and not swallowed.)


I always pronounce as K'ni ze. So it pronounces like knish, the popular NY street food?

Knize used to have a New York branch.

Originally Posted by Sator
Oddly enough I was one of only two shoppers in the store. After the lady before me paid and left, I was the only one. Yes, it's a bit sad, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Sator
Um...my visit to NYC suggested that it wasn't much different in the boutiques there either. Twice I was in the JM Weston store. Twice, I was the only one there. At the Dunhill store on Madison IIRC, the staff outnumbered the customers 4:1!

That could be the "slient cash register" phenomenon, where many of the large transactions are done without the customers being physically in the store.
 

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Originally Posted by von Rothbart
I always pronounce as K'ni ze. So it pronounces like knish, the popular NY street food?

I don't know knish, the popular New York street food. I hope it tastes nicer than it sounds.

The Viennese tailoring house is pronounced: Knishe. (In German, you always pronounce any 'e' at the end.)
 

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Sehr schoene Fotos.

When I've been in Kinze there was never anyone in there either...it seemed claustrophobic.
 

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Not claustrophobic, but there was a certain deathliness about it, and the salespeople seemed a bit bitter. Almost like Cable Car Clothiers.

I hope it survives. The Braun & Co. a few doors away is now an H&M.
 

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Originally Posted by Sator
I know that Koji Suzuki also uses boot lasts for ankle boots. I wonder what the practice is with other bootmakers? I personally feel that you should get a better fit around the upper ankle - and hence better ankle support from boot lasts. That is one of the strengths of ankle boots, and fear that you risk missing out on that by having ankles boots made up on shoe lasts.

Your antipodal brethren in Argentina, La Casa de las Botas, who made my bespoke riding boots last fall...

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...use boot lasts for bespoke paddock or ankle boots.

They're 95% old school, 5% new school (the 5% is throwing out tradition if it allows for what they think is a better performing competition boot). The lasts are in the 95% part, though (the trees in the boots above are bespoke, for example).

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Very lovely.

In pictures, I recall there was a kind of perfumery next to Knize that looked delightfully old-fashioned.

As for Loos, he was a fan of fine clothing, which he regarded as a moralizing imperative in civilization. He saw extraneous decoration as evidence of degeneracy.
 

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Those are great looking riding boots, Vox. Do you fox hunt? I ask because one of my friends is a master of fox hounds.
 

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Originally Posted by ld111134
Those are great looking riding boots, Vox. Do you fox hunt? I ask because one of my friends is a master of fox hounds.

I would love to take it up if I had the time, but sadly, my riding is occasional, although I love it, and well, New England has the occasional bag hunt, but that is it.

Those boots are hunter/jumpers, and would do very well in the open country.

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Originally Posted by voxsartoria
I would love to take it up if I had the time, but sadly, my riding is occasional, although I love it, and well, New England has the occasional bag hunt, but that is it. Those boots are hunter/jumpers, and would do very well in the open country. - B
She is a master down in Charlotte but was raised in the "horse country" of Virginia. She's shown me photos of the annual hunt ball in New York - very well turned-out ladies and gentlemen.
 

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Originally Posted by RJman
the salespeople seemed a bit bitter.

The Braun & Co. a few doors away is now an H&M.


I found the salespeople there perfectly amicable. Then again, I speak fairly fluent German, and find that this always makes a difference. For example I asked about ties in fabrics other than silk and they pulled out a nice selection not on display.

I saw that former Braun & Co store and wondered what they used to sell. This is what I mean by the replacement of traditional family owned boutiques by generic international 'brands'.
 

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Vienna is a great city. Regarding the salespeople, I found that if one is polite and knows what he is talking about all are courteous. You are correct, however, that few people were in the top men's stores.

Sorry I don't remember its name but there is a casino near St. Stephens where one must wear a jacket to go to the second floor where the tables are. The slots are on each floor.

Thanks for the pictures Sator.

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Thanks for the lovely report, Sator! When I was at Knize the last time, I was the only customer in there. Unfortunately, I was not allowed to take any pictures inside... I was also looking at their ties and pocket squares and when I found the 85 € price tag on a Brioni pocket square, I decided to leave (without buying it). Did you also visit Jungamann & Neffe? That's a nice store:
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