How to get that nice roll on shirt collars

[pablo]

I find smallest collar stays - ones about half the collar length - create this effect. The small stays add weight at the collar's edge and help bend the collar.

 

[Reborn]

I think this also has something to do with collar height.

Low collars can cause the points to run along the collar bones and give that splayed out wide look.

All of Spoo's collars have enough height that the points will naturally fall down instead of getting pushed out. The points also reach under his lapels which will give some resistance to help cause that bowing look.

I think a lower collar would have his points sliding all the way under the lapels instead of butting up against them.

 

[texas_jack]

buy expensive italian shirts with spread collars. THat's how

 

[softy]

Originally Posted by texas_jack

buy expensive italian shirts with spread collars. THat's how

This.

 

[idfnl]

Originally Posted by softy

This.
Ok, well I have Kiton, Borrelli, Isaia, Brioni, Cuccinelli, etc and cant seem to get it to work, so ya, that's 1/2 the battle, but there's more. Also, some of my English shirts (T & A, Harvie & Hudson, etc) should do it. I think the mistakes I have been making have been stays that are too long and not knotting the knot high enough on the collar.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

If you lay on your back and rest a grapefruit in between your clavicles and knot your tie over the grapefruit you should be ok.

 

[idfnl]

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH

If you lay on your back and rest a grapefruit in between your clavicles and knot your tie over the grapefruit you should be ok.

Was about to pull a FTFY, but realized you may be serious

 

[BBSLM]

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH

First of all you need a really good spread. If you don't have a wide enough spread it will aid in airplane wings.

can someone explain this or post a picture? google was of no help.

 

[idfnl]

Originally Posted by BBSLM

can someone explain this or post a picture? google was of no help.
Picture this without the Harry Connick wannabe, no jacket, buttoned 1 from the top, and imagine you were at work...

 

[softy]

Originally Posted by idfnl

Ok, well I have Kiton, Borrelli, Isaia, Brioni, Cuccinelli, etc and cant seem to get it to work, so ya, that's 1/2 the battle, but there's more. Also, some of my English shirts (T & A, Harvie & Hudson, etc) should do it.

I think the mistakes I have been making have been stays that are too long and not knotting the knot high enough on the collar.

IME the shorter pliable collar stays that come standard with the likes of Barba, Finamore, Borrelli et al (as mentioned upthread) can be of great use. The pliability is an afterthought, but they are 75% the length of a "full" stay. Did yours not have these?

 

[texas_jack]

Originally Posted by idfnl

Ok, well I have Kiton, Borrelli, Isaia, Brioni, Cuccinelli, etc and cant seem to get it to work, so ya, that's 1/2 the battle, but there's more. Also, some of my English shirts (T & A, Harvie & Hudson, etc) should do it.

I think the mistakes I have been making have been stays that are too long and not knotting the knot high enough on the collar.

Well, the only shirts I have that do that are my big spread collar Borrelli shirts. None of my other ones do that. I don't do anything different with my ties. Not a coincidence.

 

[greger]

Shirts with a nice roll are nice. But they need a larger curve on the front edge to counter the appearance of a reverse curve.

 

[BBSLM]

Originally Posted by idfnl

Picture this without the Harry Connick wannabe, no jacket, buttoned 1 from the top, and imagine you were at work...

gotcha. anything like this? isnt this supposed to be a thing people do in Japan? http://www.styleforum.net/attachment...1&d=1306366495

 

[idfnl]

Originally Posted by BBSLM

gotcha.

anything like this? isnt this supposed to be a thing people do in Japan?

http://www.styleforum.net/attachment...1&d=1306366495

Ya, that's exactly it, looks like total ****.

 

[Fraiche]

Spoo needs to post a youtube instructional video on his impeccable shirt collars.