Formula 1 - F1 - Current Season Discussion

[Texasmade]

GR eating the wall is gonna be costly. Is that a grid penalty?

Wouldn’t be a penalty. Didn’t crash into anyone else and only screwed himself

 

[flipstah]

Wouldn’t be a penalty. Didn’t crash into anyone else and only screwed himself

Oh no I mean typically when a team replaces parts and exceeds allotment then they'd get a penalty. I don't know if a chassis has an allotment, if that is the damage.

 

[Texasmade]

Oh no I mean typically when a team replaces parts and exceeds allotment then they'd get a penalty. I don't know if a chassis has an allotment, if that is the damage.

Chassis doesn’t unless you exceed budget cap. If he damaged his PU, any of the components, or gear box then it could cost him later for exceeding allotment

 

[sugarbutch]

Checo's clown show continues. The only hope of a fight for the lead is MIA.

 

[yorkshire pud]

Checo's clown show continues. The only hope of a fight for the lead is MIA.

Too much pressure for him I reckon, he needs to relax a little in qualifying and forget about Verstappen or Alonso will catch him soon enough.

 

[sugarbutch]

Too much pressure for him I reckon, he needs to relax a little in qualifying and forget about Verstappen or Alonso will catch him soon enough.

Relaxing in qualifying won't do anything to help his race pace. With that car, he could sit out qualifying and should still have a solid run at the podium.

 

[Ebichuman]

Ok, this is perhaps a naive question but I gotta ask because I just don’t understand it. Is there no better option for qualifying than what we currently have, essentially all cars on track, some slow, some fast and going for it? It gets crowded and those on fast laps are often impeded by those who are not. Has it always been like this? No chance to give drivers space so when they’re on a hot lap, there is no slow cars ahead?

 

[HRoi]

Ok I’m honestly struggling to find any narrative this season that I find interesting. I’m still gonna watch everything because it’s family “tradition” but there’s no compelling drama and McLaren just makes me angry every Sunday

 

[yorkshire pud]

Relaxing in qualifying won't do anything to help his race pace. With that car, he could sit out qualifying and should still have a solid run at the podium.

I said "relax a little", Verstappen is living rent free inside Checos head. It's almost time for team orders the way his weekends are going. He needs to forget out-qualifying Max, and concentrate on his race set up.

I understand times running out and this might be his last chance, but if he let's that "solid wingman" thing slide too much, I think he will go the same way as Albon and Gasly.

 

[Texasmade]

Ok, this is perhaps a naive question but I gotta ask because I just don’t understand it. Is there no better option for qualifying than what we currently have, essentially all cars on track, some slow, some fast and going for it? It gets crowded and those on fast laps are often impeded by those who are not. Has it always been like this? No chance to give drivers space so when they’re on a hot lap, there is no slow cars ahead?

The current setup has been in place for awhile. F1 tried a different setup back in like 2016 or 2017 for Q. They did it for like 4 or 5 races and was then quickly dropped and went back to the current setup you see now. Everyone seems to like the current Q.

 

[yorkshire pud]

Ok, this is perhaps a naive question but I gotta ask because I just don’t understand it. Is there no better option for qualifying than what we currently have, essentially all cars on track, some slow, some fast and going for it? It gets crowded and those on fast laps are often impeded by those who are not. Has it always been like this? No chance to give drivers space so when they’re on a hot lap, there is no slow cars ahead?

No it hasn't always been like it is now, they used to have an hour long open session that would start out very quiet and eventually build towards an insane crescendo in the last few minutes as the track rubbered up, where anything went, special qualifying engines (good for 2 laps only) and just enough fuel for the run.

I enjoyed watching it as you knew you were really seeing the top guys give 110%, and if they crashed trying, just jump in the T- Car and have another shot.

But I suppose it didn’t make very good TV with a flurry of action in the last 10 minutes, not to mention the cost of all those "Grenade Engines" and spare Cars they had to fly around the World with.

Golden years of Grand Prix Racing 🙂

 

[sugarbutch]

@Ebichuman here's an article which describes the various qualifying formats F1 has used: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-grid-a-history-of-f1-qualifying-formats.html

One-lap quali was great for actually getting to see everyone, and it introduced an element of chance when the weather changed during the session. Had it been in use this past weekend in Canada, the Red Bulls, Aston Martins, Mercedes, and Ferraris likely would have started from the back of the field. Which, of course, is why the format is no longer around.

 

[edinatlanta]

Ok I’m honestly struggling to find any narrative this season that I find interesting. I’m still gonna watch everything because it’s family “tradition” but there’s no compelling drama and McLaren just makes me angry every Sunday

TBH it was a rollercoaster for me. Dramatic but not in a good way.

 

[Ebichuman]

@Ebichuman here's an article which describes the various qualifying formats F1 has used: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-grid-a-history-of-f1-qualifying-formats.html

One-lap quali was great for actually getting to see everyone, and it introduced an element of chance when the weather changed during the session. Had it been in use this past weekend in Canada, the Red Bulls, Aston Martins, Mercedes, and Ferraris likely would have started from the back of the field. Which, of course, is why the format is no longer around.

Good read, thank you for sharing

 

[Texasmade]

Ok I’m honestly struggling to find any narrative this season that I find interesting. I’m still gonna watch everything because it’s family “tradition” but there’s no compelling drama and McLaren just makes me angry every Sunday

This season, much like last season, really sucks. Max is running away with the title without even having any competition from his teammate.

McLaren sucks now and is just worried about selling cars vs winning races.