Formula 1 - F1 - Current Season Discussion

[Texasmade]

Really mature.

You've met me in person so this shouldn't surprise you. I'm all business all the time.

 

[sugarbutch]

 

[Schwazer]

ChairBear is always good content.

Schumacher may potentially be leaving Haas.

Haas calls off Schumacher contract talks

Haas has called off all contract talks with Mick Schumacher for the duration of the August break, according to German broadcasters RTL and ntv.

www.grandprix.com

 

[Schwazer]

 

[Duke Santos]

Hopefully, McLaren sacking Daniel will light a fire under Lando's ass and give him some edge on the track.

 

[nootje]

Two Dutchmen in F1. Tis truly a time of plenty!

 

[sugarbutch]

This Nostradamus turn is an unexpected career evolution for Ericsson...

 

[Joffrey]

I think Alpine should seriously consider taking Ricciardo back (if he asks or they're big enough to approach him). Yes, his stock is down after a disappointing stint at McLaren - really, only 2022 was bad. 2021 was okay albeit his distance to Norris was surprising (ultimately Norris is quite good then). But Ricciardo did very well at Renault (5th in 2020) so they should snap him up at a steeply discounted salary (perhaps with generous bonuses if he comes good in an another decent car). Renault can get over the ego of being dumped since they simply need a driver that can hoover up points (obviously betting they can help Ricciardo find his mojo again with them) and they understand the sport is a business. It'd be a great story to have him again and fight to stay ahead of McLaren in 2023. FOM/Liberty would be remiss not to encourage the two back together again.

 

[HRoi]

Liberty and Netflix NEED Danny Ric in F1 or there will be no one for the DTS cameras to follow around.

alpine might be feasible, they do need him and he did well with them, it’s just that some pride swallowing on both sides is required, and that’s a little easier with Cyril gone

 

[yorkshire pud]

I kind of hope he has burnt his bridges with Renault's corporate big wigs and goes to Alpha Tauri (which could be good for Gasly if Alpine take him) and then eventually works his way back into a Red Bull with some stellar drives.

He must have been f *cking nuts to leave a front line team in the first place, that was his only shot at a title (and they liked him/and he was better than Max from a marketing perspective for them).

I think he was persuaded that the then incoming Honda PU's would be a failure by the Renault people working with Red Bull and Alonso "mouthing off" at McLaren.

He needs another manager, he is running out of time and will have basically wasted the best part of a decade if it takes him another 2 or 3 years to regain his reputation.

I like the guy, it would be a real shame if he can't find his way back 🤐

 

[patrick_b]

Alpine's under new management now. I read somewhere that Szafnauer would have no issues w/Ricciardo coming back to Renault. Ricciardo clearly didn't perform on the track but he brought in a lot of eyes and advertising dollars as one of the most well-liked drivers.

 

[yorkshire pud]

Alpine's under new management now. I read somewhere that Szafnauer would have no issues w/Ricciardo coming back to Renault. Ricciardo clearly didn't perform on the track but he brought in a lot of eyes and advertising dollars as one of the most well-liked drivers.

It's still financed by Renault (BTW I think he will go to Alpine unfortunately)

Somebody would be missing a trick though

I just think he would be better placed selling energy drinks globally (particularly the USA and Asia) than cars to a fairly limited European market and Gasly would be a better fit at Alpine.

Ricciardo is a better investment for the Red Bull group than Renault/Alpine.

If I were Daniel I would ask Bernie Ecclestone to become his manager ASAP 😉

 

[Joffrey]

I kind of hope he has burnt his bridges with Renault's corporate big wigs and goes to Alpha Tauri (which could be good for Gasly if Alpine take him) and then eventually works his way back into a Red Bull with some stellar drives.

He must have been f *cking nuts to leave a front line team in the first place, that was his only shot at a title (and they liked him/and he was better than Max from a marketing perspective for them).

I think he was persuaded that the then incoming Honda PU's would be a failure by the Renault people working with Red Bull and Alonso "mouthing off" at McLaren.

He needs another manager, he is running out of time and will have basically wasted the best part of a decade if it takes him another 2 or 3 years to regain his reputation.

I like the guy, it would be a real shame if he can't find his way back 🤐

His leaving Red Bull was because they treated him like a 2nd class citizen - e.g. by throwing him under the bus when he and Verstappen crashed into each other in a race (Baku?) then they nickel and dimed him during contract negotiations. Renault welcomed him with open arms. His mistake really was leaving Renault for McLaren - but that's with hindsight given no one could anticipate his struggling so much this year and being relatively behind Norris in 2021. Leaving a factory team for a customer is also a bit of a head scratcher - you could argue he largely lost faith in their old management over promising and under delivering (despite finishing 5th in 2020). Sad he's a bit of a journeyman now but Red Bull did lose out too tripping over his replacement until Perez became available.

 

[sugarbutch]

He signed with McLaren before the COVID-affected 2020 season got going. His decision was based on the underwhelming 2019 car and 2020 pre-season testing which didn't suggest Renault had improved much. Had the season started in Australia as scheduled, there's a decent chance he would have stayed put.

 

[yorkshire pud]

His leaving Red Bull was because they treated him like a 2nd class citizen - e.g. by throwing him under the bus when he and Verstappen crashed into each other in a race (Baku?) then they nickel and dimed him during contract negotiations. Renault welcomed him with open arms. His mistake really was leaving Renault for McLaren - but that's with hindsight given no one could anticipate his struggling so much this year and being relatively behind Norris in 2021. Leaving a factory team for a customer is also a bit of a head scratcher - you could argue he largely lost faith in their old management over promising and under delivering (despite finishing 5th in 2020). Sad he's a bit of a journeyman now but Red Bull did lose out too tripping over his replacement until Perez became available.

Meh, I don't buy it.

Ricciardo pushed aside Vettel in exactly the same way Max pushed Daniel down the pecking order, Let's not forget Sebastian Vettel was the four time Champion and the darling of the RBR team.

In this game "it's put up or shut up", he had the same equipment to prove he was world class at RBR (by challenging Max).

He should have stuck it out for another season or two at RBR and worked a bit harder.

I really like him, but I suspect he is just a bit too nice and easy going for the very top echelon, I get that there is a fair bit of distaste for Max and RBR on SF, but thats how "Alpha Males" operate, you have to dominate (like Lewis has).

You can see already that Lando Norris is doing it at McLaren, he was happy to play understudy to the experienced Carlos and was very friendly with him, but when he had to beat one of the supposed "Top Guns" in F1, different personality altogether.