Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

[DooDahMan]

I hadn't heard any advice from Baker's by the time I ordered my boots, I just based things on the fact that I'm the same size in my 55 boots as my Barrie (or whatever the official name is) lasted boots. They fit exactly like I thought they would, but I don't know if everybody would have the same experience

Yeah I'm not going to lie this has me a little concerned. I contacted Baker's about sizing for a pair on the 5050 but was told to keep the same size as my barrie last. If 5050 is any narrower than the barrie my feet aint gonna fit. Add the fact that it's my most expensive pair of Whites to date (W&C Latigo) and Im a wee bit nervous.

 

[redbaron1980]

Yeah I'm not going to lie this has me a little concerned. I contacted Baker's about sizing for a pair on the 5050 but was told to keep the same size as my barrie last. If 5050 is any narrower than the barrie my feet aint gonna fit. Add the fact that it's my most expensive pair of Whites to date (W&C Latigo) and Im a wee bit nervous.

As far as I can tell, they do not feel any more narrow than my Barrie lasted boots in the same size. Maybe from a construction standpoint they are a hair narrower, and that's why Baker's said that, but from having them on my feet I honestly cannot tell any difference between the two lasts in the toe area

 

[mjunderw00d]

Yeah I'm not going to lie this has me a little concerned. I contacted Baker's about sizing for a pair on the 5050 but was told to keep the same size as my barrie last. If 5050 is any narrower than the barrie my feet aint gonna fit. Add the fact that it's my most expensive pair of Whites to date (W&C Latigo) and Im a wee bit nervous.

I’ve got a 5050 MP on order currently. I did a lot of research leading up to the order. Here’s what I was able to find, via threads in here, messages with other members, plus conversations with Kyle:

- he said keep my MP Barrie size, because the MP Barrie toe runs a bit longer than the 55 (for both the MP and 5050)
- someone who had seen and handled these boots in person said the combo of the 55 arch and the MP toe actually means there is a tiny bit more volume in the toe based on the taper of the 55 down to the MP Barrie
- Kyle sized me at an EE in the 55, 5050, and MP Barrie. No width changes between lasts. He just suggested a half size down in MP Barrie and 5050, because of the toe length.

hope any of that info helps out your mind at ease!

 

[DooDahMan]

I’ve got a 5050 MP on order currently. I did a lot of research leading up to the order. Here’s what I was able to find, via threads in here, messages with other members, plus conversations with Kyle:

- he said keep my MP Barrie size, because the MP Barrie toe runs a bit longer than the 55 (for both the MP and 5050)
- someone who had seen and handled these boots in person said the combo of the 55 arch and the MP toe actually means there is a tiny bit more volume in the toe based on the taper of the 55 down to the MP Barrie
- Kyle sized me at an EE in the 55, 5050, and MP Barrie. No width changes between lasts. He just suggested a half size down in MP Barrie and 5050, because of the toe length.

hope any of that info helps out your mind at ease!

It definitely does, thank you! I emailed back and forth with bakers and they agree but I kept reading different things on here and reddit that freaked me out a bit, but most people I takked to had only handled one last or the other and not actually compared them.

I think Im just going to relax about it, sounds like the sizing should work perfectly. Thank you so much!

 

[wordfool]

I’ve got a 5050 MP on order currently. I did a lot of research leading up to the order. Here’s what I was able to find, via threads in here, messages with other members, plus conversations with Kyle:

- he said keep my MP Barrie size, because the MP Barrie toe runs a bit longer than the 55 (for both the MP and 5050)
- someone who had seen and handled these boots in person said the combo of the 55 arch and the MP toe actually means there is a tiny bit more volume in the toe based on the taper of the 55 down to the MP Barrie
- Kyle sized me at an EE in the 55, 5050, and MP Barrie. No width changes between lasts. He just suggested a half size down in MP Barrie and 5050, because of the toe length.

hope any of that info helps out your mind at ease!

I received similar advice on sizing for my C width feet -- half size down from my 55-last size for the Barrie and 5050 lasts. Having said that, I'm selling my only Barrie-last White's boots because the last just doesn't really work with my narrower feet and I doubt the 5050 will fix that (when or if it's ever offered in C width). Barrie has a slightly wider heel and slightly narrower ball/toe than the 55 last based on my experience (and comments from others) so even if the 5050 fixes the heel issue the toe will still not fit me as well.

I'm slightly baffled when people suggest the Barrie is a "narrow" last. I can only think that they're coming from the perspective of having wider feet overall (or narrower forefoot) than me. From the mid-foot back, the Barrie certainly doesn't fit as snug as the 55 last in my experience.

 

[Rymanocerous]

I'm slightly baffled when people suggest the Barrie is a "narrow" last.

Because it is hella narrow. Only piece of footwear I have had to go up a width in.

 

[wordfool]

Because it is hella narrow. Only piece of footwear I have had to go up a width in.

Where do you find it narrow? The heel is not as narrow as the 55 last for me, at least. Ball is perhaps a bit narrower.

 

[Woodtroll]

Good afternoon folks,

I arrived home to find a "Bakers Family" box on the porch!

These were definitely the longest I've waited for a pair of White's; they were ordered 01 December. Luckily, I had a nice pair of boots (or two) to wear in the meantime , so no harm done. And they were worth the wait! Exactly what I ordered and very well crafted. And as always, Baker's was great to deal with and made sure I got exactly what I wanted.

A standard pair of 690 Packers with just a few minor tweaks - 10" height, roughout oiltan lowers, double midsole, and top hooks instead of eyelets:

The roughout looks a little lighter in the photos than what it actually is. After a coat of oil once they've begun break-in, I think the roughout will look great with the smooth oiltan uppers. And I learned a couple of pairs of boots ago that the double midsole is worth every penny to me on a boot that doesn't have the cushion of a 100 lug sole. The 690 is my favorite "walking around" boot, although if I'm doing much actual work I prefer the stability of the Smokejumpers.

Nothing fancy, but there aren't many Packers posted on here, so I thought you might enjoy a couple photos. Thanks to all who take the time to share photos of all those diverse boots y'all dream up!

Y'all take care!
Regan

 

[ThreeLions]

Good afternoon folks,

I arrived home to find a "Bakers Family" box on the porch!

These were definitely the longest I've waited for a pair of White's; they were ordered 01 December. Luckily, I had a nice pair of boots (or two) to wear in the meantime , so no harm done. And they were worth the wait! Exactly what I ordered and very well crafted. And as always, Baker's was great to deal with and made sure I got exactly what I wanted.

A standard pair of 690 Packers with just a few minor tweaks - 10" height, roughout oiltan lowers, double midsole, and top hooks instead of eyelets:
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The roughout looks a little lighter in the photos than what it actually is. After a coat of oil once they've begun break-in, I think the roughout will look great with the smooth oiltan uppers. And I learned a couple of pairs of boots ago that the double midsole is worth every penny to me on a boot that doesn't have the cushion of a 100 lug sole. The 690 is my favorite "walking around" boot, although if I'm doing much actual work I prefer the stability of the Smokejumpers.

Nothing fancy, but there aren't many Packers posted on here, so I thought you might enjoy a couple photos. Thanks to all who take the time to share photos of all those diverse boots y'all dream up!

Y'all take care!
Regan

Regan,

I'm not normally a fan of mixing smooth and rough-out, but those are some really nice looking Packers. If you use them as rough work boots (as I do with my rough-out boots) they will eventually look more like waxed flesh. And... you won't have to worry about scuffing them.

Cool boots. Thanks for sharing.

 

[ThreeLions]

Where do you find it narrow? The heel is not as narrow as the 55 last for me, at least. Ball is perhaps a bit narrower.

My 5050 lasted MPs are definitely smaller that 55 lasted SDs. I have them both in 12D so its a direct comparison. I'd say the 5050s feel more like a 12B (maybe even 11.5B).

I also have a pair of BH on the 55 last that are 12C and even they feel considerably wider than the 12D 5050s.

 

[chicagoan2016]

Good afternoon folks,

I arrived home to find a "Bakers Family" box on the porch!

These were definitely the longest I've waited for a pair of White's; they were ordered 01 December. Luckily, I had a nice pair of boots (or two) to wear in the meantime , so no harm done. And they were worth the wait! Exactly what I ordered and very well crafted. And as always, Baker's was great to deal with and made sure I got exactly what I wanted.

A standard pair of 690 Packers with just a few minor tweaks - 10" height, roughout oiltan lowers, double midsole, and top hooks instead of eyelets:
View attachment 1581833 View attachment 1581834 View attachment 1581835

The roughout looks a little lighter in the photos than what it actually is. After a coat of oil once they've begun break-in, I think the roughout will look great with the smooth oiltan uppers. And I learned a couple of pairs of boots ago that the double midsole is worth every penny to me on a boot that doesn't have the cushion of a 100 lug sole. The 690 is my favorite "walking around" boot, although if I'm doing much actual work I prefer the stability of the Smokejumpers.

Nothing fancy, but there aren't many Packers posted on here, so I thought you might enjoy a couple photos. Thanks to all who take the time to share photos of all those diverse boots y'all dream up!

Y'all take care!
Regan

Awesome packers!!!! What size do you wear ? I am 12EE and thought my feet would be too wide for packers?

 

[Rymanocerous]

Where do you find it narrow? The heel is not as narrow as the 55 last for me, at least. Ball is perhaps a bit narrower.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The forefront is absolutely narrow, the heel I agree feels pretty standard. Its the only last I have ever had to size up width on and Im a very comfortable D, even on AE's 65 last which is well known for being narrow.

 

[Woodtroll]

Awesome packers!!!! What size do you wear ? I am 12EE and thought my feet would be too wide for packers?

Thank you. I've worn 12D boots most of my life, am a Brannock 12C/D, wear a 11.5E in the 690 Packers and an 11.5E with "close instep" adjustment in the Smokejumpers. I'm pretty certain you can get the 690 in EE width, maybe wider.

 

[chicagoan2016]

Thank you. I've worn 12D boots most of my life, am a Brannock 12C/D, wear a 11.5E in the 690 Packers and an 11.5E with "close instep" adjustment in the Smokejumpers. I'm pretty certain you can get the 690 in EE width, maybe wider.

Thank you. Would the EE width look awkward in pointed toe packers? I think pointed toe packers could serve me as dress boots.

 

[Rymanocerous]

Thank you. Would the EE width look awkward in pointed toe packers? I think pointed toe packers could serve me as dress boots.

No