I feel your apprehension... I’m the same whenever I receive a shipping notice from Bakers! As for stretching, I’ve not noticed any change in my unlined WF BHs, post break-in, but I’m also not convinced leather really stretches much unless it’s put under tension, ie. when it’s too tight and you want it to stretch as part of the break in process. Plus, I’ve never seen the point of lining White’s roughout leathers because they're thick and the inside is already smoothAny stretching issues? I’ve been told it’s basically heavily waxed, rough out cxl. I’ve heard before that a liner is recommended with regular cxl because of the stretching, that’s why I ordered my olive waxed flesh with a liner. They’ll hopefully be here Friday. It sucks that I’m feeling apprehensive instead of excited though. Out of my first three pairs of Whites, only 1 has been perfect, without any issues.