Carlo Franco

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by redtree00, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. rnoldh

    rnoldh Senior member

    Messages:
    13,630
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Yes, I watched the Carlo Franco thing start up and crash... how long ago was it? It does appear Chuck and Jill are trying to give it another shot. If they are trying to revive this business, their apparent strategy of sticking to their besmirched brand name surprises me. I don't think you could buy a cup of coffee with $5.00 and the Carlo Franco name. This situation still boggles the imagination.

    You could buy the coffee. You just wouldn't get it.

    Same as the ties.

    My sartorial aspirations are just not that high these days ( going in different directions ).

    But I would like to get a Beamann or Westmanscott suit in 2010. Well, at least Westmannscott. With him at least you get something for your money. And a bargain it is. Ultimate Bespoke, of course.
     


  2. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

    Messages:
    4,310
    Likes Received:
    78
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2008
    You could buy the coffee. You just wouldn't get it.

    Same as the ties.

    My sartorial aspirations are just not that high these days ( going in different directions ).

    But I would like to get a Beamann or Westmanscott suit in 2010. Well, at least Westmannscott. With him at least you get something for your money. And a bargain it is. Ultimate Bespoke, of course.


    Did you sign up for Westmanscoot's "7 Deadly Suit Wearing Sins"? I am now afraid I will inadvertently kill my self due to suit wearing ignorance!
     


  3. mussel

    mussel Senior member

    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Strange thing is that I've never ordered anything from them or even contacted them, yet, I got the same email. I suspected AAAC sold my email address to them. [​IMG]
     


  4. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member

    Messages:
    2,959
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Back and Better Than Before
    Strange thing is that I've never ordered anything from them or even contacted them, yet, I got the same email. I suspected AAAC sold my email address to them. [​IMG]
    A preposterous and unsubstantiated accusation. And I wont say more in this thread.
     


  5. mussel

    mussel Senior member

    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    A preposterous and unsubstantiated accusation. And I wont say more in this thread.

    I did receive the email. May be I jumped to conclusion too quickly. I don't know exactly how they got my email address, I just used process of elimination and AAAC seemed to be the most obvious.

    P.S. Are you one of the Malindae?
     


  6. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member

    Messages:
    2,959
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Back and Better Than Before
    I did receive the email. May be I jumped to conclusion too quickly. I don't know exactly how they got my email address, I just used process of elimination and AAAC seemed to be the most obvious. P.S. Are you one of the Malindae?
    Ha, no I am not one of the Malindea [​IMG], but the implications of your Post was that is that AAAC and the actual administrators of the site, or those that had access to the email list may have benefited from selling that list which is something that Neither Andy nor any of the (current) moderators that would have access to the list would do. I am pretty sure that Andy himself got burned as well with this whole CF matter.
     


  7. taxgenius

    taxgenius Senior member

    Messages:
    4,839
    Likes Received:
    289
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    From AAAC

    Makes you wonder.
     


  8. Holdfast

    Holdfast Senior member

    Messages:
    10,562
    Likes Received:
    6,340
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Yes, I watched the Carlo Franco thing start up and crash... how long ago was it? It does appear Chuck and Jill are trying to give it another shot. If they are trying to revive this business, their apparent strategy of sticking to their besmirched brand name surprises me.

    Given the lack of business sense that appeared to accompany the aforementioned crash & burn, restarting the business using the same name seems to be following in the same footsteps.

    Anyway, IIRC, I used them just the once, and got my two ties. They're OK enough - though far from amazing - but I waited something in the order of a couple of months to receive them. I guess on balance I was lucky...

    Given the history since then, I certainly would go nowhere near this business again, regardless of how much of a discount they'd care to offer.
     


  9. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member

    Messages:
    2,959
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Back and Better Than Before
    From AAAC Makes you wonder.
    Nah...Gentlemanly behavior and a moderators attempt that all hell doesnt break loose as is wont in topics like this. I am 100% confident that the list was not sold or given to CF or to any of his team.
     


  10. redtree00

    redtree00 Senior member

    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Location:
    Yes
    Pretty forgiving bunch the AAAC crowd.
     


  11. Philip1978

    Philip1978 Senior member

    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    13
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2007
    Location:
    Dominion of Canada
    Ha, no I am not one of the Malindea [​IMG], but the implications of your Post was that is that AAAC and the actual administrators of the site, or those that had access to the email list may have benefited from selling that list which is something that Neither Andy nor any of the (current) moderators that would have access to the list would do. I am pretty sure that Andy himself got burned as well with this whole CF matter.

    I thought you weren't going to say anymore.....................[​IMG]
     


  12. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member

    Messages:
    2,959
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Back and Better Than Before
    I thought you weren't going to say anymore.....................[​IMG]
    Nothing negative from me. Is there a halo smiley? There ought to be. Besides,[​IMG] I[​IMG] want[​IMG] Audrey[​IMG] back[​IMG] just[​IMG] as[​IMG] much[​IMG] as [​IMG]the [​IMG]next [​IMG]guy. [​IMG]
     


  13. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

    Messages:
    8,626
    Likes Received:
    401
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    What bothers me is that none of this "buddies" on AAAC ever came out an admitted that guy was a fraud.

    I never had the sense he was an outright fraud, just a poor businessman who let his enterprise crash and burn, leaving a lot of angry creditors (his customers) who never got their merchandise. Things like this happen every day.
     


  14. redtree00

    redtree00 Senior member

    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Location:
    Yes


  15. marc237

    marc237 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,381
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2004
    I never had the sense he was an outright fraud, just a poor businessman who let his enterprise crash and burn, leaving a lot of angry creditors (his customers) who never got their merchandise. Things like this happen every day.

    I concur. Also, my sense is that a number of personal issues went south very fast for Jill and Chuck. My sense is they were way over-extended in all arenas and they were not able to come up with a plan to address the mess and retreated. I have also thought this a shame since I personally liked Chuck and Jill and thought them nice folk.
     


Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by