Yes, I watched the Carlo Franco thing start up and crash... how long ago was it? It does appear Chuck and Jill are trying to give it another shot. If they are trying to revive this business, their apparent strategy of sticking to their besmirched brand name surprises me. I don't think you could buy a cup of coffee with $5.00 and the Carlo Franco name. This situation still boggles the imagination. You could buy the coffee. You just wouldn't get it. Same as the ties. My sartorial aspirations are just not that high these days ( going in different directions ). But I would like to get a Beamann or Westmanscott suit in 2010. Well, at least Westmannscott. With him at least you get something for your money. And a bargain it is. Ultimate Bespoke, of course.