OMG! Now this thread has started talking about the use of the word 'gay'. What happened to the quality of this thread!? Some of the members are seriously degrading the quality of this thread. If you can't afford to be gay, just don't ask about the value of being gay. JESUS CHRIST! ------------- Sorry, just having a Starry moment . The joke is never going to get old . ------------ Rob, I am going to take some photos and do a little bit of a write up on Elite, when I get the time (harder than it sounds).