Are you a bad tipper?

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Ambulance Chaser, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. Styleman

    Styleman In Time Out

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    Actually it is quite common in London society to leave ones card with the staff prior to the meal (you don't need to be a regualr), so that there is not the usual discussion after the meal, as to who will pay, this is especially common with buisness meals.
     


  2. PHV

    PHV Senior member

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    With all due respect, it seems that you are getting what you pay for. I really enjoy going out to eat, and generally at more exclusive restaurants. I never feel rushed, and most of the time my dinners last several hours.

    If you dine at Outback steak house, then you really cannot expect much. However if you are speaking of decent places, then I am certainly very sorry to hear that. Come up to Montreal and try the Cafe Paris at the Ritz, and the Que De Cheval.

    I need a keyboard with accents.
     


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    arrogant Well-Known Member

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    This PHV character is quite sad....He attempts to give suggestions of French restaurants and fails badly to spell them correctly. ex:Que de cheval..more like Queue de cheval
     


  4. PHV

    PHV Senior member

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    So what. I'm not French.

    How's your 3rd language comming?

    Go dig a ditch and get me another manhattan.

    O, and next time you try to diss someone, at least have the decency of not being so childishly anonymous.
     


  5. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    As someone who serves at a chain restaurant and an armchair pop culture philosopher, the event of dining out has evolved from an event in and of itself to a very commonplace one. When I was growing up, people drove through McDonald's for dinner, and now those people have graduated to sit-down restaurants.

    I waited on a family of four tonight who stayed long after the bill was paid helping their gradeschool daughters with their math homework. In a lot of ways, for better and worse, many people who we serve use our tables as their dining room. It is very common for me to serve people who use mealtimes this way.

    Regarding the servers themselves, because of the overall homogeneity of the cuisine at same or similar price points offered by many of these restaurants--Chili's, Applebee's, Friday's, Bennigan's, Houlihan's, and the like--these chains feel that the biggest way they can compete and differentiate themselves from the next guy is with the service they offer.

    The training programs many of these restaurants use to equip servers with the skills they need are designed to be (overly) attentive to guests. They are designed to suggest the most expensive thing on the menu, to always suggest specific things. And most of the time, the people serving often times have very little experience and don't know any better, in which case they can't be faulted for doing what they're told.

    Most people would rather not look at dirty dishes with remnants of food on them, so we take them away, and most people appreciate this. Of course, a server worth his/her salt will always ask first, and there are some people who would rather sit at a table full of dirty crockery.

    Personally when I go out to eat, I prefer to not eat at chains because I go for the food. However, chain or not, just like my own workplace, service depends ultimately on who is presiding over the section you're sitting in.
     


  6. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I use a formula to calculate tips at US restaurants that are nicer than quick casual.

    I start with 15% and add or subtract based on certain events and guidelines.

    Generally if I ask for something, and it isn't done promptly, I will subtract 2-5% from the tip. If they attempt to remove plates w/o being asked or it being obvious that I want them removed (I will generally place them outside my eating area) then I will subtract 2-3%, I may also subtract 1-2% if my water (or wine) isn't refilled when it's obvious it needs to be. I always subtract 5% if I am brought my check before I ask for it, that is one of my biggest pet peeves.

    I will add 2-5% for good service and 5-10% for exceptional service.
     


  7. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

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    I have no idea what age "gradeschool" refers to, but anyone who takes young children to a restaurant should not only tip the staff well, but should also visit every table to apologise to the other patrons for ruining their evening and compensate them accordingly.
     


  8. ViroBono

    ViroBono Senior member

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    Absolutely. I recently went out for dinner to a restaurant in an affluent area. There appeared to be children at almost every table; that is, when they were not running about. The noise was incredible. Going to the lavatory involved negotiating an assault course of pushchairs and yet more children. The staff made no attempt to ask parents to control their ill-mannered spawn.

    Just as restaurants have no-smoking tables, perhaps they should also have no-children tables.

    Some parents I know claim that they have to take their children because they cannot get babysitters - I imagine that they have neither cellar or lockable garden shed, then.
     


  9. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    I get a little tired of hearing people bitch about children at restaurants. I understand they can cause a disturbance, but I'm sure we all, at some point, disturbed others as well.
     


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    I have had extraordinary waiters at chain restaurants before and my tipping reflected this. However, I have been in fantastically expensive (as compared to Boca Raton's average prices) restaurants, and whilst the food was excellent, the service was merely service, nothing to warrant a lack or gain of attention towards the server. Granted, the food is the most important part of the meal, but without service, you should just order takeout and eat at home.

    Jon.
     


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    uriahheep Senior member

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    How much is one expected to tip when ordering carryout?
     


  12. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I typically don't tip when ordering carryout... how much do they expect to get for just handing you a bag?
     


  13. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    Agreed.  I consider carryout to be the equivalent of fast food.
     


  14. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    Since carryout is usually under $20, I add a dollar and round up the change to the next dollar.
     


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    hopkins_student Senior member

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    What do you tip for delivery?
     


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