Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2020 - News, Pictures, Clothing, Accessories, etc.

[madhat]

That is way better than the Dalton, imo. AE needs to use the wingtip of the McAllister then adjust the vamp to run symmetrical similar to Alden's. The ~90 degree turn on the McAllister wingtip would make it a distinctly AE boot as well.

great minds

 

[darkclassic]

Do you think the last would make a difference in proportion, like Barrie vs. Plaza or Grant?

IMO, the last does make a difference overall on the Alden. I've gone through WTBs on Barrie, Grant, Hampton, and Plaza. I prefer Hampton for fit, but also for the overall proportion, especially toe shape. Grant is a close second and Plaza is very good, but not quite there to my eye though.

The notes above would be of big help to AE as well about adopting the McA to a WTB. Especially on the 65 last as I find it to be somewhat similar to the Hampton. @ae_ashley ?

Agree that the Dalton wants a split welt. I had a pair in shell and still find it hard to believe they are on the 511 last (and I've had quite a few 511 last AEs).

 

[stook1]

IMO, the last does make a difference overall on the Alden. I've gone through WTBs on Barrie, Grant, Hampton, and Plaza. I prefer Hampton for fit, but also for the overall proportion, especially toe shape. Grant is a close second and Plaza is very good, but not quite there to my eye though.

The notes above would be of big help to AE as well about adopting the McA to a WTB. Especially on the 65 last as I find it to be somewhat similar to the Hampton. @ae_ashley ?

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Agree that the Dalton wants a split welt. I had a pair in shell and still find it hard to believe they are on the 511 last (and I've had quite a few 511 last AEs).

you guys got me studying what it is that I don't like about the dalton now more carefully. I actually think a big part of the problem is that the quarters are too short or are positioned too far back (or both). I think this contributes to all of the issues that we have been talking about. Vamp too big, shaft looks off, wings not set correctly... while the wings aren't perfect (I think they dip a bit too low down the sides of the vamp as well as the aforementioned angles), I think the issue is more with the quarters than anything else.

maybe I am out of my mind, I don't know... that's just how I am seeing it now that I am looking and comparing more closely.

 

[mreams99]

As long as we’re discussing wingtips....
Here is the McTavish.

 

[Vincent George]

One further comment. Allen Edmonds already knows how to correctly terminate a wing...look at the McAllisters! All they need to do is apply their expertise in closed lacing wing patterns to open lacing boot patterns, and they are all that is win. (McA has the same problem of wings not following the exact path, but the shapes are correct and they have done it correctly on past models)

How about a first ave / austerity wing combo?

 

[EZB]

Non-AE and pair 7 of the year. This breaks the quota, @AEfaninTampa

Spoiler: cobbler union

 

[Coffandcig]

How about a first ave / austerity wing combo?

Washington Square in boot form.

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[Vincent George]

Washington Square in boot form.

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Bingo.

 

[madhat]

How about a first ave / austerity wing combo?

If it's handled correctly. Without the distractions of brogueing it would have to be very sorted. Plus, the 201 is less than ideal for me fit wise. And I still don't like the way the 1A quarters fall to the welt, so that would have to be revised just the same as the Dalton's

 

[vdubiv]

Thursday Boots wing tips

 

[madhat]

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Thursday Boots wing tips

For me, personally, still has the eyelet tab issue (extending would help), too shallow angle welt meet, and too much gap between quarters and wings.

 

[vdubiv]

while we are on the topic of wing tip boots what is everyones feelings on the Trickers Stows?

 

[madhat]

while we are on the topic of wing tip boots what is everyones feelings on the Trickers Stows?

Very heavy and casual country boot aesthetic. Fit issues and generally overly chunky styling keeps me away.

 

[Coffandcig]

Bingo.

If you look at the post TS19.1 spreadsheet, I recommended a Wash Square boot.

 

[stook1]

For me, personally, still has the eyelet tab issue (extending would help), too shallow angle welt meet, and too much gap between quarters and wings.

Agree overall. In some ways they remind me a bit of the dalton but I like them a decent bit more than the dalton.