A Sam (and David) Hober Tie Appreciation Thread

[jdp234]

Merry Christmas to me

 

[Captain Waffles]

Hello all,

I am just getting into ties and find myself perplexed at the costs of branded ties (e.g. Eton, Armani, etc.) and they all seem to be really wide. I came across Sam Hober and while the price is still expensive, I like the ability to customize the length/width. I was wondering if y'all can suggest the major features of a tie that you should look for and what the standard knots are to use? I am planning on ordering from David and I want to get it right the first time.

Also, does David offer any discounts or sales?

Thanks, Cap.

 

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Merry Christmas to me

excellent choices! i received that macclesfield as well, along with a dark purple mulberrywood weave. and now i just want more...

 

[jdp234]

Hello all,

I am just getting into ties and find myself perplexed at the costs of branded ties (e.g. Eton, Armani, etc.) and they all seem to be really wide. I came across Sam Hober and while the price is still expensive, I like the ability to customize the length/width. I was wondering if y'all can suggest the major features of a tie that you should look for and what the standard knots are to use? I am planning on ordering from David and I want to get it right the first time.

Also, does David offer any discounts or sales?

Thanks, Cap.

Just to head you off at the pass here, since you're complaining about most ties being too wide -- avoid skinny ties at all costs, they are already out of style and never looked good on most frames anyhow. Unless you are very, very slight, like heroin-addicted elf proportions, anything below 3" at the bare minimum will look disproportionately narrow.

Knot: four-in-hand, full stop.

As far as quality Sam Hober is as good as it gets, I think many/most folks on here would probably agree that the only reason to buy more expensive name-brand ties is if there is a pattern you like that Hober doesn't offer. I don't recall ever reading any suggestion that there is some meaningful quality increase available from more expensive makers.

I have not seen SH offer any discounts or sales, their prices are already very competitive.

 

[ericgereghty]

Hello all,

I am just getting into ties and find myself perplexed at the costs of branded ties (e.g. Eton, Armani, etc.) and they all seem to be really wide. I came across Sam Hober and while the price is still expensive, I like the ability to customize the length/width. I was wondering if y'all can suggest the major features of a tie that you should look for and what the standard knots are to use? I am planning on ordering from David and I want to get it right the first time.

Also, does David offer any discounts or sales?

Thanks, Cap.

How wide do you prefer your ties, normally? I’ve had ties from both of those makers, and they are rather slim compared to most “classic” tie widths.
I normally go 6/7 folds for mine, but the fabric is the most important. I always do a four in hand (to the point I’ve forgotten how to tie other knots), but if you like very slim ties, other knots might be in play.

Note: obviously a matter of taste, but I would suggest never going slimmer than 3”, unless you’re extremely slender.

 

[Captain Waffles]

Hmmm I was thinking that 3 inch ties are too wide for my taste and thought anything between 2.5 - 2.75 inches was good. I am 5 ft 6, average build.

 

[jdp234]

Hmmm I was thinking that 3 inch ties are too wide for my taste and thought anything between 2.5 - 2.75 inches was good. I am 5 ft 6, average build.

I am almost certain that 2.5 or 2.75 inches would look far too narrow on anyone with an average build.

 

[Captain Waffles]

Are you sure though that 3 inches is in proportion to someone of my height?

 

[jdp234]

Height has nothing to do with it, the issue is the proportion of the tie’s width to your width. I promise a skinny tie would look very extremely doubleplus bad on a 5’5” fat guy, his below average height notwithstanding.

Are you sure though that 3 inches is in proportion to someone of my height?

 

[jdp234]

FWIW I’m somewhere between 5’9” and 5’10” and order 3.75” ties from SH.

 

[DCTieGuy]

Are you sure though that 3 inches is in proportion to someone of my height?

Find your best fitting tie and use its measurements.

 

[ericgereghty]

Hmmm I was thinking that 3 inch ties are too wide for my taste and thought anything between 2.5 - 2.75 inches was good. I am 5 ft 6, average build.

I've been there. Not telling you you're right or wrong, but every single one of those types of ties I own does not see the light of day.

 

[Captain Waffles]

Hmmm, OK because I have a 3.14 inch/8 cm tie and it personally looks too wide so I wasn't sure that 3 inches would be that big of a difference. How do you guys determine the optimal length?

 

[Count de Monet]

... How do you guys determine the optimal length?

Take one of your ties and tie it where the tip of the larger front blade ends at your belt (assuming you are wearing the sort of trousers you'll be wearing with ties). Note where the small blade is ending. I like mine to be about 2-3 inches shorter than the front blade. Where do you want yours to end? Take note how far off the mark it might be.

Remove the tie and measure it. If your back blade was 3 inches too long, subtract three inches. If your back blade was two inches too short, then add two inches. That's the length that ought to work for you. For me, that's about 58-59 inches for my Hobers. But I'm a lot taller than you and likely have a bigger neck and/or belly. That all affects where the end of one's tie will land and therefore the right length. This assumes you are always tying the same knot. I suppose a tie with thicker material and/or interlining could "shorten" the tied tie slightly but not too much.

 

[Captain Waffles]

How comparable are the grenadines at KentWang? Also - does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve the proper knot size?