Paul Sargent (formerly Alfred Sargent) Appreciation Thread

[cazone]



Interesting comparison, similar fit in both lasts for you then?

I would say yes.
Very close.
The widest part is a little further back for the C&J and the AS have a little more room in the height.

 

[muddy250]

Thanks for that. I'll keep that in mind and have a look at C&J on the 341

EDIT:
Pleased to see there's a lot of 341 options in C&J including the Chelsea 8 I've been eyeing

 

[mbaltazar]

Looks like I'm not having my pair of AS Cambridge. Both stocks at AFPOS and Pediwear we're "wrong" so, only in February...

It's amazing how in 2016 the stock is not in real time.It allows the shopper to buy, they withdraw the money from the credit card and only later tell the shopper that it's sold out! Unacceptable.

 

[muddy250]

That's annoying to say the least and you're right. It shouldn't take payment prior to stock checking. They'll be worth the wait tho, small consolation I know.

 

[mbaltazar]

That's annoying to say the least and you're right. It shouldn't take payment prior to stock checking. They'll be worth the wait tho, small consolation I know.

I was really upset.

What upsets the most is that I have the feeling that if I didn't call I wouldn't be, immediately, informed that they're we're out of stock.

Anyway, Robinson's Shoes has them in house! I'm placing the order...

 

[muddy250]

I was really upset.

What upsets the most is that I have the feeling that if I didn't call I wouldn't be, immediately, informed that they're we're out of stock.

Anyway, Robinson's Shoes has them in house! I'm placing the order...

Great stuff!

 

[insy]

Hey guys,

here are my Moore Oxfords I just got yesterday. What do you guys think about the lacing? Is it too tight, considering the shoes will stretch quite a bit?

 

[MGD83]

Fit depends on more then just the lacing closure. I have a low instep so most of my shoes close in the middle or almost close. As long as they hug your heel and the length feels good for your toes I'd say they should be fine, as they'll stretch a bit on width but not immensely. It's really hard to find a last on a maker with a "perfect" fit. Nowadays I order mostly boots or chukka boots since finding the perfect oxford fit has always proved difficult in my case anyways. Boots are always a bit more forgiving. I have a few oxfords that I use for special occasions in specific lasts from specific makers that I know work for me, and that's about it.

 

[pediwear]

Looks like I'm not having my pair of AS Cambridge. Both stocks at AFPOS and Pediwear we're "wrong" so, only in February...

It's amazing how in 2016 the stock is not in real time.It allows the shopper to buy, they withdraw the money from the credit card and only later tell the shopper that it's sold out! Unacceptable.

Hi

We are sorry that the stocks of Cambridge are low. We do offer a full range of sizes because usually Sargents are able to offer a good stock service which can supply us within 24- 48 hours. Unfortunately quite a few of their lines are now depleted - but this has only recently become apparent as our own stocks have run down.

The technology to link our stocks and those of the manufacturer certainly exsits, perhaps one day it will be deployed but until then we will have to endeavour to keep our site as up to date as we can based on the changing information from the manufacturer.

I must emphasise that we never take any money until the time of despatch - your inference that we take the money and only tell the customer later is quite wrong. Your card is authorised at the time of the transaction, but we only take the money when we despatch the shoes, and we always advise customers within one working day regarding the expected delivery time.

I would quite agree that taking customers money when you do not have the stock is quite wrong.

Mike Small
Pediwear

 

[mbaltazar]

Hi

We are sorry that the stocks of Cambridge are low. We do offer a full range of sizes because usually Sargents are able to offer a good stock service which can supply us within 24- 48 hours. Unfortunately quite a few of their lines are now depleted - but this has only recently become apparent as our own stocks have run down.

The technology to link our stocks and those of the manufacturer certainly exsits, perhaps one day it will be deployed but until then we will have to endeavour to keep our site as up to date as we can based on the changing information from the manufacturer.

I must emphasise that we never take any money until the time of despatch - your inference that we take the money and only tell the customer later is quite wrong. Your card is authorised at the time of the transaction, but we only take the money when we despatch the shoes, and we always advise customers within one working day regarding the expected delivery time.

I would quite agree that taking customers money when you do not have the stock is quite wrong.

Mike Small
Pediwear

Hi Mike,
first of all thank you for your thoughts. This is also customer service.

I have expressed my "deslike" on the phone with the lady with whom I spoke with. She was lovely and did her job greatly, but I wanted my AS boots.

The buying process was confirmed and to me, and perhaps to anyone else, once it's successfully finalized there is stock to fulfill the order. It's a question of expectations management. In a world where everything is "live" and in real time, it's difficult to accept that a simple stock count takes time and needs to be "manually" confirmed.

About the payment, I payed using Paypal and Paypal showed the money withdrawal, not on my credit car balance, because it's probably not immediate but on my Paypal balance. I honestly am not an expert on internet payment procedures, but if my inference is/was wrong please accept my apologies.

Anyway, I really liked your upfront "no small talk" attitude. I just won all my future shoe buys (as long as you carry the brand I want).

Kindest regards,
Miguel

 

[John15]

Hey guys,

here are my Moore Oxfords I just got yesterday. What do you guys think about the lacing? Is it too tight, considering the shoes will stretch quite a bit?

Just a little bit. Really great shoes!

 

[Threeputt]



Looks like I'm not having my pair of AS Cambridge. Both stocks at AFPOS and Pediwear we're "wrong" so, only in February...

It's amazing how in 2016 the stock is not in real time.It allows the shopper to buy, they withdraw the money from the credit card and only later tell the shopper that it's sold out! Unacceptable.

Ugh... I ordered a pair over the weekend and have yet to get a confirmation. What size did you order?
Thanks

 

[mbaltazar]



Ugh... I ordered a pair over the weekend and have yet to get a confirmation. What size did you order?
Thanks

I ordered size 8,5. The funny thing is that I was only told they we're out of stock because I called. Otherwise, I'd probably be waiting for that same email confirmation.

 

[daizawaguy]

Hey guys,

here are my Moore Oxfords I just got yesterday. What do you guys think about the lacing? Is it too tight, considering the shoes will stretch quite a bit?

Ive noted these are sold as a F fitting which is their standard (same as E on other makers), but I feel these are really a true F, and hence you can lace them up fully. Really depends how it fits on your widest part of the foot. For me this was an F deceptfully marketed as an E, but is a real F....

 

[Threeputt]



I ordered size 8,5. The funny thing is that I was only told they we're out of stock because I called. Otherwise, I'd probably be waiting for that same email confirmation.

It's just frustrating because there were other vendors with Cambridges on sale for Black Friday. If they had proper inventory control, we could have known they were out of stock and gone elsewhere for a good deal on the Cambridge. Granted, the Pediwear deal was the best I saw but I would have gladly paid a bit more to actually get them before Xmas. Not sure what I'm going to do. They offered some cheap socks for the inconvenience of waiting until February. Seriously? Just pisses me off.

Rant over. Carry on...