NFL 2016-17 Thread

[diadem]

I thought James White deserved to get SB MVP over Brady.

 

[Steve B.]



I thought James White deserved to get SB MVP over Brady.

Point well taken.

 

[Texasmade]



I thought James White deserved to get SB MVP over Brady.

So did I. His play was nearly flawless all game while Tom struggled for the first 3 q's.

 

[edinatlanta]



I thought James White deserved to get SB MVP over Brady.

The MVP is pretty much always the best qb/wr/rb regardless of who else played well

 

[venividivicibj]

So did I. His play was nearly flawless all game while Tom struggled for the first 3 q's.

Don't know if Brady struggled as much as his receivers, I know Brady had some off passes but I saw maybe 5 BIG dropped passes that killed drives or failed to get first downs.

 

[LawrenceMD]

lolz



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[Ambulance Chaser]

Anybody else surprised that Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner were voted into the HOF? Both players had incredible peaks, but those peaks lasted a short time. And both players were arguably products of their respective offensive systems.

 

[rnoldh]

Maybe photoshopped, but funny anyway

 

[archibaldleach]



Don't know if Brady struggled as much as his receivers, I know Brady had some off passes but I saw maybe 5 BIG dropped passes that killed drives or failed to get first downs.

I'd say Brady was less sharp than usual during the first three quarters and the drops (and receivers not making a few plays on 50/50 balls) didn't help. He missed some open receivers he normally hits, so I think there's enough blame to spread around.

 

[archibaldleach]



Anybody else surprised that Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner were voted into the HOF? Both players had incredible peaks, but those peaks lasted a short time. And both players were arguably products of their respective offensive systems.

Not too shocked. Some players make a bigger impact over a few seasons than others make over a career. I don't have firm thoughts about where you draw the line about HOF-caliber, but Warner played excellent football and I'd argue that without Terrell Davis, John Elway retires without a Super Bowl ring. He averaged over 100 yards per game (regular season and playoffs), with 142 yards per game and 1.5 rushing TDs per game during his playoff career.

 

[countdemoney]

Warner is deserving IMO. He did take some whole other team to the SB, not just a few magical years with the Rams.

TD is not deserving. The only real running back in the hall you can compare him to as far as shortened career is Gale Sayers, and TD is no Gale Sayers. There are lots and lots of guys, including TD's contemporaries who I would draft/pick before him.

Mike Anderson (who?) put up 1,500 yards in that system. Unless you're going to say every 2000 yard rusher is HOF

As far as the Falcons, history is against them returning to the SB, let alone returning and winning.

Hopefully the Goodell era ends very soon.

 

[archibaldleach]



TD is not deserving. The only real running back in the hall you can compare him to as far as shortened career is Gale Sayers, and TD is no Gale Sayers. There are lots and lots of guys, including TD's contemporaries who I would draft/pick before him.

Just curious who you'd put above TD. Not necessarily disagreeing, it's just been awhile since I've really thought about 1990s running backs other than Thurman Thomas, Emmitt Smith, or Barry Sanders.

 

[Ambulance Chaser]



Just curious who you'd put above TD. Not necessarily disagreeing, it's just been awhile since I've really thought about 1990s running backs other than Thurman Thomas, Emmitt Smith, or Barry Sanders.

Off the top of my head, Shaun Alexander, who has nearly 2000 more rushing yards but no rings.

 

[venividivicibj]



I'd say Brady was less sharp than usual during the first three quarters and the drops (and receivers not making a few plays on 50/50 balls) didn't help. He missed some open receivers he normally hits, so I think there's enough blame to spread around.

I agree- just saying that the drops made his stat line, and the general 'he's off!!!' Look worse than it actually worse

 

[diadem]

The MVP is pretty much always the best qb/wr/rb regardless of who else played well

I mean, James White had 3 touchdowns (2 rushing, 1 receiving, including the game-tying and game-winning TD's), set an NFL record with 14 receptions in the Super Bowl, and accounted for 20 of the 34 points scored by the Patriots (the aforementioned 3 TD's plus a 2-point conversion). I understand that the comeback doesn't happen without Brady, but I do believe White had a bigger impact on the game than Brady. If Brady didn't throw that pick-six, I could see it as more of a 50-50 call as to who should get it, but that pick was one of the reasons the Patriots had to dig themselves out of such a massive hole. Besides, Brady himself has said that White deserves it.

But whatever, QB's get all the glory in this league, I guess. I felt the same way when Peyton Manning won his first SB in '06 against the Bears. Manning's stat line was rather pedestrian and Dominic Rhodes played out of his mind, but of course Manning gets the award.