My God, I hate the windsor knot

[Montrachet]

Here's a monarchist argument on tie knots: The Windsor knot belongs to the House of Windsor and is therefore royal, reigning over all other knots by divine right. Sure, we all prefer the four-in-hand, but that's because it's our place to do so.

 

[porcelain monkey]

Clearly I agree with the OP, and put the Ian Flemming quote in my sig a while ago to demonstrate this. I first read From Russia with Love about 25 years ago in college and this quote has stuck with me ever sense. That I was brought up in the Northeast by generations of button-down-collar-four-in-hand-tying Yankees does not hurt either. (For what it's worth, I also find many pocket squares to be overly fussy, but that bit of SF blasphemy is another topic.)

Originally Posted by onix

I think Windsor knot has an advantage in the following situations: - The tie is long (with respect to the person's height), or - The tie is not substantial enough, or - Both
If this is an issue, tie a four-in-hand that is wrapped around twice. That works well for this situation, especially with thinner ties.

Originally Posted by luftvier

The right photo is significantly better. My poor photoshopping skills aside, the smaller knot is simply more elegant looking compared to the clumsy windsor, which draws too much attention to itself.
I agree with luft. The right picture is much improved.

Originally Posted by BareSolid

God, this is called 'Style' Forum, please do not wear ties with button-down collar shirts.
I will forgive you because you appear to be British. In my parts there is often not other way for many generations of men. I agree that there is room for many types of knots, collars and squares, but I, like Bond, will stick with my prejudices.

 

[SkinnyGoomba]

Originally Posted by Montrachet

Here's a monarchist argument on tie knots: The Windsor knot belongs to the House of Windsor and is therefore royal, reigning over all other knots by divine right. Sure, we all prefer the four-in-hand, but that's because it's our place to do so.

There is a Monarchy in Chicago?

In the Duke of Windsors pics I've found on google he appears to wear both.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by Montrachet

Here's a monarchist argument on tie knots: The Windsor knot belongs to the House of Windsor and is therefore royal, reigning over all other knots by divine right. Sure, we all prefer the four-in-hand, but that's because it's our place to do so.
I like the four in hand because it is simple. I have seen some small men need to use a windsor know to account fro the extra fabric length in their ties.

 

[Montrachet]

Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba

There is a Monarchy in Chicago?

You're obviously unfamiliar with Mayor Daley.

 

[Harrydog]

Originally Posted by holymadness

+1

The knot on the left is strictly for clowns and assholes.

and which one are you?

 

[Trompe le Monde]

Originally Posted by Montrachet

Here's a monarchist argument on tie knots: The Windsor knot belongs to the House of Windsor and is therefore royal, reigning over all other knots by divine right. Sure, we all prefer the four-in-hand, but that's because it's our place to do so.

 

[MrDaniels]

Martin Luther King Day is NOT a day to express hatred. Can't we all just get along?



For me, the bottom like is this: Wear the knot that makes YOU look good in relation to your shirt collar, suit and neck size/ face shape. No one knot is going to be right for everyone, every outfit and every occasion.


PS Men who wear any type of Windsor with a button-down collar should be shot.

 

[luftvier]

Originally Posted by MrDaniels

Martin Luther King Day is NOT a day to express hatred. Can't we all just get along? . . .
PS Men who wear any type of Windsor with a button-down collar should be shot.

How about:

Originally Posted by MrDaniels

Men who wear any type of Windsor with a button-down collar should be Foofed.

 

[unjung]

You telling me this doesn't look nice?

 

[bowtielover]

I think they look great with a spread or cut away collar but I do hate when someone tries to wear one with a normall collar that just dosen't look right to me.

 

[porcelain monkey]

Originally Posted by unjung

You telling me this doesn't look nice?

To my eye, it would look better as a four in hand, but to each his own.

 

[Trompe le Monde]

Originally Posted by unjung

You telling me this doesn't look nice?

 

[Doc4]

I saw this thread title this morning, so made sure I used a windsor knot.

Originally Posted by porcelain monkey

Clearly I agree with the OP, and put the Ian Flemming quote in my sig a while ago to demonstrate this. I first read From Russia with Love about 25 years ago in college and this quote has stuck with me ever sense. ...

You take advice from a guy who drinks vodka martinis?

 

[Ziss]

Originally Posted by HRoi

hate is a strong word for a method of tying a strip of silk that goes around your neck

That made me laugh uncontrollably for some reason. Thank you.