Des Merrion status or whereabouts?

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by cold war painter

Lasbar - it was in Portland Harbour in Dorset, apparently.

Nice view...

 

[texas_jack]

You know all those kids stabbing each other? How'd you like it if they we're spraying tech 9 fire instead. That's what guns bring to your country. And once the cat is out of the bag there is no putting it back

 

[George]

Originally Posted by lasbar

That my friend has to do with the constant overcrowding of English jails and the lack of investment in the system... Some have to go out to allow others to get in... Even the Tories after talking the talk are not going to walk the walk on that one... No money to give ad vitam aeternam her Majesty's prisoners and no Australia anymore...
The solution is to build more prisons. The cost of building extra prisons is much less than the cost to society of having criminals roaming the streets preying on the innocent.

 

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by George

The solution is to build more prisons. The cost of building extra prisons is much less than the cost to society of having criminals roaming the streets preying on the innocent.

really?

20 grands a year per prisoners, the prisons themselves and the staff....

Even the current law and order government is not going to do it.

In America ,prisons are big business employing most of the town inhabitants where they're built...

I agree with letting real criminals going out too early ..

 

[TheWraith]

Originally Posted by George

The solution is to build more prisons. The cost of building extra prisons is much less than the cost to society of having criminals roaming the streets preying on the innocent.

I agree, but there isn't the money to go round at the moment to implement that, even if they wanted to.

I think that, too, is a similar problem, certainly it is in the US and Australia. Not enough prisons, not enough money to build new prisons (plus, any time a new prison actually is announced, most towns vehemently protest it being built near their homes). We all largely share the same problems.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by lasbar

really? 20 grands a year per prisoners, the prisons themselves and the staff.... Even the current law and order government is not going to do it. In America ,prisons are big business employing most of the town inhabitants where they're built... I agree with letting real criminals going out too early ..
Yes, really. Criminals activity costs Britain billions per year, far more than it costs to house criminals in gaols. Here: ...and this is from 2000. Things will have got [far] worse now. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1083212.stm

 

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by George

Yes, really.

Criminals activity costs Britain billions per year, far more than it costs to house criminals in gaols.

Here:

...and this is from 2000. Things will have got [far] worse now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1083212.stm

How can one really quantify the real cost of criminality in a country?

I don't disagree with your statement , I was just reminding us of the facts...

My mate's wife is in the probation services and the cuts have been massive there...

 

[George]

Originally Posted by lasbar

How can one really quantify the real cost of criminality in a country? I don't disagree with your statement , I was just reminding us of the facts... My mate's wife is in the probation services and the cuts have been massive there...
Well, if you read the article it explains how they've arrived at the costs. You can be certain that it was probably higher still when this study was originally done as it doesn't deal with un-reported crime. It's even more shocking when you consider that crime is committed by a small segment of society and that many are repeat offenders. When politicians say that it costs to much to build gaols to house criminals they are lying. The reluctance to send criminals to gaol has nothing to do with cost, but with the perverted and twisted notion that criminals are somehow victims themselves and are in need of compassion. As Adam Smith said: '...mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent'

 

[TheWraith]

In today's GFC affected world (in which the US and the UK are prime examples), there simply isn't enough money to go round right now. Just the way it is, George.

 

[Michael Ay329]

Besides his website...are there are links to Des' work?

 

[GBR]

Originally Posted by Michael Ay329

Besides his website...are there are links to Des' work?

Presumably prison inmates can now have bespoke uniforms?

 

[beau nash]

Originally Posted by texas_jack

You know all those kids stabbing each other? How'd you like it if they we're spraying tech 9 fire instead. That's what guns bring to your country. And once the cat is out of the bag there is no putting it back

But if you shoot the cat first . . . .

 

[Will]

Originally Posted by beau nash

But if you shoot the cat first . . . .

You have a ruined carpet. Assuming you used the sawed off shotgun.

 

[greger]

Originally Posted by Will

You have a ruined carpet. Assuming you used the sawed off shotgun.

The way some people are spending money they already want a new carpet, so how is the old one ruined?

 

[Michael Ay329]

Originally Posted by GBR

Presumably prison inmates can now have bespoke uniforms?
Wow GBR...you are on a roll, one low blow after the other.

Guns have saved my life on multiple occassions...and I never had to fire a single round. Maybe those criminals will think twice in the future My whole brainwashing theory is not nonsense...its academically documented http://www.amazon.com/Samurai-Mounti.../dp/0879757566