Accutane

[CCAurora]

Originally Posted by trd6478

ccaurora, why do you feel the need to post your naturopathic quackery in every single health-related thread?
Quackery? You mean to tell me that people with acne have an "accutane deficiency?" Let me guess - you were surprised when accutane lawsuit commercials popped up on TV, right? The fact that you define quackery as "finding the root cause and feeding the body to cure it" shows how worthless an opinion you have. Until you get a respectable one, silence yourself and let the adults talk

 

[Raoul Duke]

I took accutane when I was in university. Had mild acne for a few years prior to that. Nothing major, but it still annoyed me. Went the usual route and tried the various creams, gels, etc. and nothing worked. Upon starting treatment, my derm told me that I could still drink in moderation, which I did. No issues were noted with my liver in my monthly blood tests. To this day, still no acne, and no ill effects.

 

[style_goat]

Outside of a genetic predisposition, there usually isn't an underlying cause to bad acne, much less one that could be remedied with herbs. There is a misconception out there that severe acne is the telltale sign of bad hygiene, certainly in a few circumstances it is, but the fact of the matter is that people with bad skin invests more in it than the next guy. I went on Accutane when I was 21 (at the end of the month it'll be 5 years to the day I had begun, wow time flies) and I don't regret it. A passing pimple here and there, but Accutane marked the demise of the skin-altering breakouts. While on the treatment, aside for the usual symptoms (dry skin and chapped lips), not much else happened.

At the time I was something of a pious teetotaler, now I'm a full blown alcoholic. I regret not having found booze sooner, all the great sud-inspired occasions I let slip by. My aversion to drink back then, however, did prevent treatment from being a constant exercise of will power.

If you're in college and like to drink, I would prioritize. If you feel you have a particularly debilitating form of acne, you should hunker down for 20 weeks and abstain from booze while on the drug. On the other hand, if the cost of innumerable drinking binges is too great and your acne is relatively mild with respect to the average Accutane user, then you could possibly postpone treatment to coed-off season or cross your fingers that you outgrow your acne. Last I checked, your liver is doing well in the internal organ rankings. And you don't exactly have Mickey Mantle's stature if you need another one.

For some reason, the world is rife with Accutane naysayers. Apparently, a juicy lawsuit may be the cards for me. A commercial just told me that if you have IBS and were on the drug Accutane, then you have a right to sue. Well, I have IBS and I had taken Accutane, would I still be entitled to money if I had IBS before I had begun Accutane? lol.

Kidding aside, Accutane is an effective drug, and the only conclusive side effects are minor. Don't buy into the depression nonsense. If one day a sufficient correlation between Accutane and depression in a token percentage of its users is drawn (I doubt there ever will be), then I'm sure that figure would be dwarfed by the amount of depressed people with low self esteem whose terminal acne remains untreated by a drug like Accutane.

On a side note, I have noticed that I have reached that age, my hairline is beginning to recede and crown hair starting to thin. My dermatologist endorsed Propecia, a drug whose effectiveness is well-documented. However, one visit to a search engine reveals all sorts of frightening things. Supposedly Propecia is responsible for a low libido and involuted prostrate, among other things. Saddest is that all these things are said to be irreversible, even once treatment has been desisted.These people may very well be right. But, I'm skeptical. I draw on my experience with Accutane, and recall how many anonymous cyber quacks tried to dissuade me from taking it. I'm not exactly ready to start popping Propecia, but it bears repeating that things are best examined with an open mind. Sure, many authorities in the industry may be in the back pocket of powerful pharmaceutical companies, but who says the opposition is not in somebody's pocket themselves.

 

[CCAurora]

Originally Posted by style_goat

Outside of a genetic predisposition, there usually isn't an underlying cause to bad acne, much less one that could be remedied with herbs.
Stopped reading here... why do people with little to no knowledge on herbs try and pass opinions on them? People throw the word "quack" around like its a football, but have no problem blindly trashing a field they know nothing about. Its adorable.

 

[tehbry]

Try moderate to high doses of vit B5. I've talked to people who have had good results.

Personally, the side effects of accutane always made it a dire last resort for me. I just deal with my mild acne with good hygiene, a decent diet, and lots of benzoyl peroxide. Works well for me.

 

[Davidko19]

i took it as a young, pimply kid. Cleared me up very well and cant recall any side effects

 

[Koaxke]

Originally Posted by CCAurora

Stopped reading here... why do people with little to no knowledge on herbs try and pass opinions on them?

People throw the word "quack" around like its a football, but have no problem blindly trashing a field they know nothing about. Its adorable.

Would you care to enlighten us why you're so much more qualified than a dermatologist to treat acne with your pseudo-medicines?

 

[CCAurora]

Originally Posted by Koaxke

Would you care to enlighten us why you're so much more qualified than a dermatologist to treat acne with your pseudo-medicines?
I can tell from this one sentence that you're clueless. You don't know that you don't know - and that's the problem of everyone "calling me out" for understanding how human bodies work. Why would you go to a skin specialist when the skin issue could very easily be a symptom of a liver issue? What will your dermatologist do to help you different phase 1 and phase 2 liver detoxification and which of the two could be causing acne? Oh wait - he'll take your $$$ for the default topical treatment and if that doesn't work, there's "no other option" than to take a medication. Cute. Your acne isn't caused by a drug deficiency... The idea of a specialist is asinine because it implies that the body works as segmented as these doctors do. Its a great way to feed the system, but not to feed your body. In fact, you're silencing it. You're not giving your body what its asking for by creating symptoms like acne (100% of the time, acne is a symptom of an underlying cause... 100%) - you are bypassing the issue and silencing a symptom. You can slice your kid's voice box to make him stop talking, but did you really solve the problem? Hmm...

 

[scientific]

i did accutane twice. both times was great, incredibly effective when nothing else was, and no side effects that i know of. it is concerning all the stuff out there about it but that's mostly slip n fall lawyers earning their meal tickets ever since it came out.

 

[ALFAMALE]

I had horrible acne in high school, and I took accutane for 4 months and it disappeared. No scars or anything left behind, haven't had a real pimple since. Although it made my lips super dry, my lips looked dead some days.

 

[Dashaansafin]

Originally Posted by CCAurora

I can tell from this one sentence that you're clueless. You don't know that you don't know - and that's the problem of everyone "calling me out" for understanding how human bodies work. Why would you go to a skin specialist when the skin issue could very easily be a symptom of a liver issue? What will your dermatologist do to help you different phase 1 and phase 2 liver detoxification and which of the two could be causing acne? Oh wait - he'll take your $$$ for the default topical treatment and if that doesn't work, there's "no other option" than to take a medication. Cute. Your acne isn't caused by a drug deficiency...

The idea of a specialist is asinine because it implies that the body works as segmented as these doctors do. Its a great way to feed the system, but not to feed your body. In fact, you're silencing it. You're not giving your body what its asking for by creating symptoms like acne (100% of the time, acne is a symptom of an underlying cause... 100%) - you are bypassing the issue and silencing a symptom. You can slice your kid's voice box to make him stop talking, but did you really solve the problem? Hmm...

Then open up your own ******* clinic. Why dont you write a book about it then? Oh wait, you're a quack.

 

[style_goat]

If your face were marred by ance like this:

Your first recourse would be herbs and plants? Give me a break. All this anti-Accutane nonsense is doing a disservice to those that are defaced by acne. I have been on the drug, my brother has been on the drug, my sister has been on the drugs, my friends have been on the drug, and none of has yet to experience a serious side effect. Moreover, every dermatologist I've ever encountered stands by it. So would the ravenous lawyers of the world and Tom Cruise-types on this forum please let the drug be.

 

[CCAurora]

Originally Posted by Dashaansafin

Then open up your own ******* clinic. Why dont you write a book about it then? Oh wait, you're a quack.
There's tons of books out on it. You're too glib and complacent to get your info from sources beyond television commercials. More power to you, but don't expect to be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by style_goat

If your face were marred by ance like this:

Your first recourse would be herbs and plants? Give me a break. All this anti-Accutane nonsense is doing a disservice to those that are defaced by acne. I have been on the drug, my brother has been on the drug, my sister has been on the drugs, my friends have been on the drug, and none of has yet to experience a serious side effect. Moreover, every dermatologist I've ever encountered stands by it. So would the ravenous lawyers of the world and Tom Cruise-types on this forum please let the drug be.
I'm a proponent for drug use in emergency situations only. I *guarantee* nobody in this thread using Accutane had acne half as bad as in that picture. The fact that you don't bat an eye at your entire family using the **** proves what a fool you are. Odds are, you all had the same cause, but instead, you all suppressed the same symptoms. Kudos. And the asinine "I don't see anything wrong, so there were no side effects" stance is ridiculous. If you knew the basics about drugs, you'd know the baseline side effects of ALL drugs - depletion of Vitamin K stores in the digestive system. Its like trying to teach kindergartners algebra... you're more focused on ignoring anything that's not the bullshit you see on TV than to listen to someone like me who clearly has knowledge on an area half of you have barely heard of. Cute... **** this forum, have fun, pizza faces

 

[pebblegrain]

QQAurora, care to put your money where your quack is?

one of us will tell you our acne symptoms, you prescribe the herbal solution.

if it works, you get $1000.

If it turns out to be quackdom....

 

[style_goat]

Originally Posted by CCAurora

I'm a proponent for drug use in emergency situations only. I *guarantee* nobody in this thread using Accutane had acne half as bad as in that picture. The fact that you don't bat an eye at your entire family using the **** proves what a fool you are. Odds are, you all had the same cause, but instead, you all suppressed the same symptoms. Kudos.

And the asinine "I don't see anything wrong, so there were no side effects" stance is ridiculous. If you knew the basics about drugs, you'd know the baseline side effects of ALL drugs - depletion of Vitamin K stores in the digestive system.

Its like trying to teach kindergartners algebra... you're more focused on ignoring anything that's not the bullshit you see on TV than to listen to someone like me who clearly has knowledge on an area half of you have barely heard of. Cute... **** this forum, have fun, pizza faces

Huh, the guy is the picture most definitely has a genetic predilection to acne, thus his siblings might (if he has them) be or have been afflicted by it too. I'm surprised you believe that there is a herbal solution if it runs in the family. Just so happens my sister and I have dry skin, while my mother and brother have very oily skins. Well, my brother did have oily skin.