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[Chien]

looking for pair of black plain toe boots in cordovan still... anyone knows where i can get?

Alternatively I'm looking at the http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-me...s-4065_ald_m_cap_toe_boot_shell_cordovan.html
since its the closest to a PTB that i can find.

But a quick question, with no speedhooks, and just all eyelets, can i use the "tie around the ankle" method for the shoe laces ?

 

[stevent]



looking for pair of black plain toe boots in cordovan still... anyone knows where i can get?
Alternatively I'm looking at the http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-me...s-4065_ald_m_cap_toe_boot_shell_cordovan.html
since its the closest to a PTB that i can find.
But a quick question, with no speedhooks, and just all eyelets, can i use the "tie around the ankle" method for the shoe laces ?

http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/Shoes-Black_Shell_Cordovan_High_Lace_Boot_123.htm

 

[Chien]



http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/Shoes-Black_Shell_Cordovan_High_Lace_Boot_123.htm

mmm thanks, looked at it, but pity i need something sleeker than a trub.

At least a barrie, looked at the AF60, but im a Size 8.5D, and they ran out of it

 

[Kashiwa]



Nope. My brown Wolverine 1000 mile boots is also very reddish under strong sunlight. They are all CXL from Horween.

Yeah. You're right. I thought the brown cxl Steinbeck boots at Epaulet were straight brown, but on second thought, you can see the burgundy undertones.

 

[g.michael]

No angry natives with poison darts or crazed nazis to deal with, just an easy Saturday morning doughnut run with my Cigar Indy's....

 

[thebeebs]

mmm thanks, looked at it, but pity i need something sleeker than a trub.
At least a barrie, looked at the AF60, but im a Size 8.5D, and they ran out of it

i'm also in the market for a black boot - why do you not like the trubalance, is is more bulbous than the barrie?

nonwithstanding availability, what are your favorite Alden black boots? i might just hold out of try to do an MTO. the blackbird milkman boot was a pretty sweet offering, and i also like the AF60.

 

[Alcibiades]

For those that use Saphir cordovan cream - do you use Saphir Reno on the shoes before applying Sahpir Cordovan cream, or do you use seperately. My cigar longwings and RL marlows need work, I am going to go at them tomorrow

 

[justsayno]

^ Saphir cordovan cream replaces Reno on cordovan leather.

 

[pelican]

mmm thanks, looked at it, but pity i need something sleeker than a trub.
At least a barrie, looked at the AF60, but im a Size 8.5D, and they ran out of it

Another reason alden of DC needs to remake the blackbird milkman boots

 

[pelican]

i'm also in the market for a black boot - why do you not like the trubalance, is is more bulbous than the barrie?

nonwithstanding availability, what are your favorite Alden black boots? i might just hold out of try to do an MTO. the blackbird milkman boot was a pretty sweet offering, and i also like the AF60.

I told alden of DC a couple weeks ago that they need to reissue the blackbird milkman's, and they said they would look into/consider it. Email them and tell them you are interested too.

 

[stant62]

Just pre-ordered the NST boots in Ravello from TSM... can't wait for April 2013...

 

[stevent]

Putting this back for new users -

I've been adding to the FAQ over the past few days. Here's the latest incarnation. Any ideas on how to make this more permanently available other than reposting occasionally? I have tried to give credit where due, with many links to original sources. As always, contributions welcome.
ALDEN FAQ

Compiled by borderline using the combined wisdom of "The Official Alden Thread" on Styleforum and other web sources.
Before Buying
What are the different lasts and how do they fit relative to one another?
http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/13590#post_4526910
*See below for more sizing information
Alden's advice for sizing

To help you determine proper fit we offer these simple suggestions:
1. Put both shoes on. If they are lace oxfords, tie them both as you normally would.
2. Stand up and, with your feet about 8-12" apart, have the sales person check the
position of your feet in the shoes. The balls of your feet should be at the widest
part of the shoes.
3. Wiggle your toes; they should have real freedom of movement throughout the
forepart of the shoe.
4. Backpart fit should be snug but not over tight. As the outsoles flex and "break-in",
small initial amounts of slipping at the heel should disappear. Going to a smaller
size to eliminate ALL initial heel slipping can result in a fit that is just too tight,
especially in slip-on models.
Try not to depend upon breaking in to loosen up a tight feel. Goodyear welt
construction and quality selection of leathers result in a very strong shoe. Try for
a size that feels good right from the start.
What do the different cordovan colors look like?
http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21165#post_5102551
http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21300#post_5108188
I feel like I'm buying too many Aldens, what can I do?
1) Give up, there is no hope.
2) Stop reading this thread
Why do they call it the Indy boot?
http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21750#post_5128364
http://www.theraider.net/information/indy_gear/boots.php
http://www.indygear.com/igboots.html
Are Alden shoes worth the price?
At the end of the day, the main benefits to Alden shoes are
1) High quality Horween leathers (Chromexcel, cordovan, and I assume suede) in unique colors
2) Willingness to work with retailers (many of whom work with customers) to develop special styles
3) Variety of well-fitting lasts
4) Recraft-ability (not necessarily by Alden, but by a variety of cobblers)
5) Decent price point compared to shoemakers that work with similar materials
6) Traditional aesthetic (high quality and stylish in a "handsome," "gentlemanly" way)
7) Alden shoes are pretty comfortable, can be very eye catching (cordovan, suede, etc tend to get tons of compliments) and overall enhance one's look.
The obvious downsides are
1) Poor quality control, particularly as they ramp production
2) Low / inconsistent availability
(Alcibiades)
After Buying
How should I break in my shoes?
Use “Mac’s Break-in Procedure”:
Shoes should be worn only on carpeting on three different days for a minimum of one hour in order to ascertain that the fit is proper.
What is the "pen trick"?
You put a pen where your foot joints are and then crease the shoe. This way the crease is set exactly where your joint bends and the crease is nice and even. People report varying levels of success with this, and it is generally thought to be more important for the PTB.
Will my cordovan shoes stretch?
The consensus is that cordovan stretches very little, if at all.
Care and Cleaning
How should I clean my cordovan shoes or boots?
Use the “Mac Method”:
1) Clean shoes with damp cloth

2) Brush vigorously with a horsehair brush

3) Buff with smooth cloth

4) Use wax after a minimum of fifteen wearings
http://theagatineeyelet.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-mac-method/
Some other cleaning advice from Alden of Carmel
1. Do not use 'neutral' polish
2. Do not clean cordovan shoes using saddle soap
3. Do not attempt to clean cordovan shoes using petroleum distillates or cleaning fluids
4. Do not use any spray shines or aerosol type waterproofs
5. Do not attempt to dry wet shell cordovan shoes with heat or a heater. Wipe them dry, and allow them to dry naturally
6. Do not attempt to polish shell cordovan shoes while wet
http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm
My shoes are dry and/or discolored in the creases. How can I fix this?
Alden SF recommends using a small amount of cream in the creases. This can moisturize the area and also bring up some of the natural color in the leather. Most people use either Saphir Renovateur or Venetian Shoe Cream.
http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-renovateur.html
http://oakstreetbootmakers.com/accessories/venetian-shoe-cream
My cordovan shoes got wet and there are tiny round marks or bubbles. What should I do?
1) Next time try the Alden Leather Defender
2) Brush them for awhile
3) Try some Renovateur
4) Try the deer bone treatment
5) Just wait, it will go away evenutally
Restoration
Will Alden put a different sole on my shoes?
Alden Restoration will now only recraft your shoes using original materials. If you want to put on a different sole, your best bet may be B. Nelson.
http://www.bnelsonshoes.com/
Can I have speed hooks converted to eyelets?
B Nelson will do it for $12 per eyelet (not per pair). A standard Alden boot with 4 pairs of speed hooks would therefore run $96. The top four eyelets would be off-centered with the bottom five, which is often done to compensate for the oblong size of the speed hooks.
Here's an example: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/18000#post_4958968
I want new shoelaces for my Indy Boots. What are my options?
1) Alden will mail you a pair if you ask. http://www.aldenshoe.com/
2) The Alden Madison store will sell you waxed laces for ~$6. http://aldenmadisonny.com/
3) Red Wing model 9011 will work, request them here http://www.redwingheritage.com/laces/
Miscellaneous Items
Acronyms
LWB: Longwing blucher
SWB: Shortwing blucher
PTB: Plain toe blucher
LHS: Leisure hand sewn (a loafer)
A video by Epaulet about the Alden factory

Cordovan: A Photo Gallery of Some of Mac's Shoes
Whiskey: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11760#post_4267010
Ravello: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11760#post_4266962
Cigar: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11745#post_4266729
#8: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11745#post_4266673
Online Purchasing Options
Leather Soul http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/category/brands/alden/
The Shoe Mart http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-shoes/bt-ald.html
Alden Shop http://www.aldenshop.com/
O'Connells http://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/dress_shoes.php
Sherman Brothers http://www.shermanbrothers.com/brand...S&BrandCode=AL
J. Crew http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/s...enForJCrew.jsp
Leffot http://blog.leffot.com/category/footwear/alden-brands/
Ben Silver http://www.bensilver.com/Alden-American-Shoes.html
Orvis http://www.orvis.com/
Moulded Shoe http://mouldedshoe.com/alden1.html
Unionmade http://www.unionmadegoods.com/alden_Mens.html
Blackbird http://www.blackbirdballard.com/Alden_Mens.html
Context http://www.contextclothing.com/brand.php?brand=Alden
Epaulet http://www.epauletshop.com/servlet/t...den/Categories
Renners Fine Boots & Shoes http://www.rennersbootsshoes.com/aldenshoes1.html
Sky Valet http://www.skyvalet1.com/Alden.aspx
Frans Boone Store https://www.fransboonestore.com/en/store/brands/alden.html
The Bureau http://www.thebureaubelfast.com/shop/brand/58/alden/
Alden of Carmel http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/shoes.htm
J. Gilbert http://www.jgilbertfootwear.com/?q=node/90
Need Supply http://needsupply.com/
Tres Bien http://www.tresbienshop.com/
Francos http://www.francos.com/
Barneys http://www.barneys.com/
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Anecdotal sizing information
I find the Modified last (for my foot) is wider than the Barrie. 9D Modified fits me great, while 9D in Barrie is a snug fit, the E width for me in Barrie is too wide. I find the Trubalance last to be a little bit bigger overall last to the Barrie, whereas the Modified has a more tapered mid foot under the arch, opening up to a wider forefoot. (NewYorkRanger)
Normal size is 10.5D, I take a 10D in Barrie and 10.5E in Leydon (borderline)
I wear a 9 D in the Barrie and i've also tried a 9E in the Barrie. I won some of each and wear them both. The 9D is a little snug and the 9E is a little loose. I have a pair of 9.5 D leydon lasted LWB and they fit great. I went with a 9.5D on the grant.
9.5 E in the Dalton and most all AE's
9D in the truebalance (almost perfect fit)
9.5 D in grant ( perfect fit)
9.5 D in leydon (perfect fit)
(Pastor)
I wear 6.5D Barrie and the 7D Grants fits well for me (actually 6.5E also works fine). (dsmivtr)
If you size down 1/2 for barrie (say 10E to 9.5E), don't try to size down 1 and go wider (to 9EE) (kippy).
the best way to determine fit and comfort is to ensure that the ball of your foot is at the widest part of the shoes. some people may have short toes and some people may have longer toes but using that area as a reference point has always worked well for me. Also there is just a feel when you put on a pair of shoes if it feels slightly too large or slightly too tight. If you think it fits you well and is not causing any pain or slipping off when you lace them, then they are likely the right size.(MiniW)

 

[ReppTiePrepster]

Went to pull the trigger on the J Crew Cap Toe shell boots and they were no longer in stock. Fortunately though, looks like I will only need to wait a couple of weeks. Congrats to whomever beat me to them!

 

[dddrees]

Went to pull the trigger on the J Crew Cap Toe shell boots and they were no longer in stock. Fortunately though, looks like I will only need to wait a couple of weeks. Congrats to whomever beat me to them!

Congrats.

I'm waiting for mine right now as well.

It's well worth the wait however.

 

[kwhitelaw]

anyone stocking cigar or ravello chukkas in 11.5 at the moment?