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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

It seems to me a week or two ago someone on here was looking for the color 8 LWB (975) with antique edging. So, here ya go:

https://www.thebureaubelfast.com/shop/32/the-bureau-color-8-cordovan-long-wing-blucher

that was me, thanks for the heads up.. 

 

trying to decide if its worth ordering thru there (as they have my size) and pay shipping etc to get it over here, or just buy a regular 975 and have the sole sanded be B.Nelson (and have flush taps installed)

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post #43802 of 79343
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

that was me, thanks for the heads up.. 

trying to decide if its worth ordering thru there (as they have my size) and pay shipping etc to get it over here, or just buy a regular 975 and have the sole sanded be B.Nelson (and have flush taps installed)

To get the exact look of the antique edge, you should order from there, IMO.
post #43803 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

You don't consider, for instance, a balmoral wingtip a dress shoe?

touche. but i don't consider a LWB, PTB, NST and certainly not any boot or loafer a "dress shoe."
post #43804 of 79343
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

It seems to me a week or two ago someone on here was looking for the color 8 LWB (975) with antique edging. So, here ya go:

https://www.thebureaubelfast.com/shop/32/the-bureau-color-8-cordovan-long-wing-blucher
that was me, thanks for the heads up.. 

trying to decide if its worth ordering thru there (as they have my size) and pay shipping etc to get it over here, or just buy a regular 975 and have the sole sanded be B.Nelson (and have flush taps installed)

That's going to be about $800 to get them from the Bureau just to have antique edge trim and you'll still end up with dark welt.

I think I'd get a pair of regular 975s and have B Nelson do the antique edge + a lighter welt if I'm paying that much.
post #43805 of 79343
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

touche. but i don't consider a LWB, PTB, NST and certainly not any boot or loafer a "dress shoe."

What the hell does "dress" even mean? Alden is dressier than 95% of the shoes that your coworkers and friends wear to work. You can wear them with a suit and they'll look better than most. You can wear them with jeans and get compliments from ladies.

This debate is pointless and needs to be framed in a different light. The shoes you listed are bluchers, which traditionally are considered to be casual. Balmorals are dressy in the same way a three piece suit is considered dressy.
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Agreed, I'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't think my black calf NSTs are dress shoes.

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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

Agreed, I'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't think my black calf NSTs are dress shoes.
Yep. This is nitpicking to the max. Only some of us will notice this. Most men just break down footwear into sneakers and dress shoes. Casual shoes are an unknown concept. Your LWBs in a suit will look super sharp next to a suit in a pair of Rockport hybrid dress/sneaker shoes that I often see men wear.
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

What the hell does "dress" even mean? Alden is dressier than 95% of the shoes that your coworkers and friends wear to work. You can wear them with a suit and they'll look better than most. You can wear them with jeans and get compliments from ladies.

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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

Yep. This is nitpicking to the max. Only some of us will notice this. Most men just break down footwear into sneakers and dress shoes. Casual shoes are an unknown concept. Your LWBs in a suit will look super sharp next to a suit in a pair of Rockport hybrid dress/sneaker shoes that I often see men wear.

True. City shoes, country shoes, casual shoes, bluchers, balmorals, etc are distinctions most don't know about. Wear what is aesthetically pleasing and appropriate for the situation
post #43809 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

 

If suede, Snuff (or if not, tan).  If shell, Whiskey or Ravello if you can find it.  No shorts, IMHO.

 

Your shells Ideally won't need wax for 6 months. At the minimum 15 wearings.  Don't use cream polish on shell.  If you take care of them properly you will never need renomat.  It is said that saddle soap should not be used on shell.

 

If you need to buy more than one jar of reno, you are probably overusing it.  Not sure about reno, but I know that the Saphir Cordovan Cream has a 5 year shelf life, so no use stocking up.

 

I would be reluctant to use regular store water-proofer on my shell, but maybe it will be fine.  Not a risk I'm willing to take.

 

You should get a suede protectant for your suede shoes and treat before you wear em outside.

 

You just need one or the other Wax/Cordovan cream, not both, but I have acquired both.  Bought the saphir in every color and then received complimentary aldex wax with subsequent purchases.  (yes, get the appropriate color for each)

 

Your instinct is correct.  Stick to the method.  Get some good horse hair brushes.  One for each color, however, you can use the same one for all, up until you apply wax.  I say one for each to avoid cross contamination of different colored wax.  YOu can get some daubers (applicators) while you are at it, although not as essential as the brushes.

 

There was some discussion in the past 4 weeks about good places to buy brushes.  Check my post history if you have trouble finding it because I know I threw in $.02.

 

 

PTB LWB

Dear Bakes,

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to my admittedly lengthy posts. I was actually leaning toward the snuff suede chukka; I only thought it made sense to at least entertain one of the other suedes since I bought a snuff suede LWB recently.

 

I very much appreciated your helping with the shoe care shopping list. Will definitely be placing an order (likely thru the Hanger Project) this weekend.

 

Anyone out there with opinions on the indications and contraindications for the Alden Leather Defender?

post #43810 of 79343
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

What the hell does "dress" even mean? Alden is dressier than 95% of the shoes that your coworkers and friends wear to work. You can wear them with a suit and they'll look better than most. You can wear them with jeans and get compliments from ladies.

This debate is pointless and needs to be framed in a different light. The shoes you listed are bluchers, which traditionally are considered to be casual. Balmorals are dressy in the same way a three piece suit is considered dressy.
As former Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice
once said "all right everybody calm down". I love when this forum gets more heated than a string theory seminar at a physics convention. Maybe there'd be some prescient argument concerning dress v. casual if any of us went to prep schools in Switzerland. To all of you who have, my sympathies. But damn it, this is America. Alden is an Anerican company that makes American shoes for anybody with enough scratch to get a pair. For what I "shelled" out yesterday for a pair of glorified penny loafers I'm going to wear my Alden's with pink tights under green shorts, and
two different colored socks. TMI, sorry. While we're on the subject does anyone here wear the #2161 STB as their primary black dress shoe, and does it work for you? Sincerely, hot and bothered in cold MPLS.
post #43811 of 79343
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

Alden is dressier than 95% of the shoes that your coworkers and friends wear to work.

this is not true in my case.

plus, that's generally a super weak argument.

that would be like if my intern turned in shitty work and said "oh well it's still better than what the intern gave you." okay, sure, but it's still shitty work and not up to standard.

in any case, i agree that 95% of people won't know the difference. but then again there is the random person who you would never expect to know. tonight i stopped into trader joes to buy some bananas and cheese. the guy that bagged my groceries was like "great boots. those alden's?" and i was like "oh, yeah." and he told me he'd saved up for a year for some black cordovan LWB but he doesn't wear them because they're too pretty. i'd never suspected the grocer to know what's up. but he did.

i see at least 2 pairs of alden's literally every time i go to my gym in the locker room. so it's not like everyone in this threat is some shoe illuminati.
post #43812 of 79343
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post


That's going to be about $800 to get them from the Bureau just to have antique edge trim and you'll still end up with dark welt.

I think I'd get a pair of regular 975s and have B Nelson do the antique edge + a lighter welt if I'm paying that much.

yea that is what I was leaning towards (B Nelson) as I was going to want some taps installed as I somehow manage to butcher the toes on everything I wear 

post #43813 of 79343
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post



in any case, i agree that 95% of people won't know the difference. but then again there is the random person who you would never expect to know. tonight i stopped into trader joes to buy some bananas and cheese. the guy that bagged my groceries was like "great boots. those alden's?" and i was like "oh, yeah." and he told me he'd saved up for a year for some black cordovan LWB but he doesn't wear them because they're too pretty. i'd never suspected the grocer to know what's up. but he did.

The grocer shops at J Crew, lurks on styleforum, reads A Continuous Lean, and follows the Sartorialist on tumblr nod[1].gif
post #43814 of 79343
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

I use the European straight lace or Helix lacing on all eyelet boots.

I'm cruising through DC this week. Has anyone seen something noteworthy at Alden DC?

Been meaning to go down and try on some different lasts.  Let us know what you find.

post #43815 of 79343
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

Alden is dressier than 95% of the shoes that your coworkers and friends wear to work.

this is not true in my case.

plus, that's generally a super weak argument.

that would be like if my intern turned in shitty work and said "oh well it's still better than what the intern gave you." okay, sure, but it's still shitty work and not up to standard.

in any case, i agree that 95% of people won't know the difference. but then again there is the random person who you would never expect to know. tonight i stopped into trader joes to buy some bananas and cheese. the guy that bagged my groceries was like "great boots. those alden's?" and i was like "oh, yeah." and he told me he'd saved up for a year for some black cordovan LWB but he doesn't wear them because they're too pretty. i'd never suspected the grocer to know what's up. but he did.

i see at least 2 pairs of alden's literally every time i go to my gym in the locker room. so it's not like everyone in this threat is some shoe illuminati.


I think the point that Namor was trying to make (or at least what I took from it) was that most don't pay much attention to what sits partially covered by your pants.  I know him well enough through his posts on this thread to tell you he is not some arrogant smart ass claiming to be a shoe illuminati. My feeling is, wear whatever is aesthetically pleasing to you.  I could care less if the grocery bagger or you think my shoes are not dressy enough to wear with my city suit.  But you are certainly welcome to your opinion. Cheers...

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