Skinny guy needs some help!

Originally Posted by skeen

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Aside from the obvious fact that I am headless, I need some help. Generally, I'm a fairly skinny guy - which I'm happy with, but I've put on a lot of weight in my mid-section!

I'm currently a 33 waist. I used to be, I think, a size or two smaller. And my belly noticeably protrudes. It's strange because, from the front, it looks okay...you can even see abs there in the right light!

I don't really have much of a problem with having a bit of a belly...belly's are fine, I think. I think that with some bulking on the arms, and legs, it can look pretty good. But I've got to get this belly down some - it just doesn't suit me.

Now, I'm wanting to bulk up anyway. Get some muscle on me. Will just, general working out, free-weights, etc. start reducing my belly naturally? Or, say, will the bulk built around the belly put it in proportion possibly?

I did running for a few weeks, about a few miles a day, for about 4 days a week, and it seemed to have some effect. But, I got tired of waking up at 6am!

I'm going to join a gym. If you can point me in the right direction, that would be great. One step I've taken is cutting down the amount of take-out, and drinking only diet and sugar-free sodas.

Skeen,

Those who have replied to you are idiots.

Without knowing your height and weight and seeing your barebodied pictures (note: not nudity. I don't care about that), how can we comment on whether you are underweight or not?

Also, I note no one here even asked you what is your diet. LOL!
Oh my! These people are just telling you to put a fishbowl on your head and go forth and apply to NASA space programme!!

Are you dumb enough to put your life in the hands of this people who treat your wellbeing as their source of amusement?

Originally Posted by beasty

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Are you dumb enough to put your life in the hands of this people who treat your wellbeing as their source of amusement?

I certainly wouldn't go that far. Merely, I'm trying to gather a range of feedback, to enable me to form an informed conclusion about what I should do.

I am I think 5'11, about 155 pounds. My diet consists of...sort of everything. Certainly one step I need to take is cutting the junk food, and eating more vegetables.

My stomach just noticeably protrudes. I tell you what's odd, is that I can see abs under there! But it just sticks out, and does not suit me - you can see it in the photos somewhat.

I've been eating very unhealthily for the past few years - my situation is no doubt the result of excessive junk food, and it's all gone to my mid-section. All of it.

^ A good rule of thumb for Body Conciousness forum: when beasty gets in a thread, it's the time to get out.

Originally Posted by whacked

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^ A good rule of thumb for Body Conciousness forum: when beasty gets in a thread, it's the time to get out.

Are you dumb or what?
You have not even attempt to explain how others can advice Skeen without knowing his diet and his actual weight and yet you are slinging mud at me. You must be those idiots who refuse to vote for Obama due to the colour of his skin.

Originally Posted by beasty

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Are you dumb or what?
You have not even attempt to explain how others can advice Skeen without knowing his diet and his actual weight and yet you are slinging mud at me. You must be those idiots who refuse to vote for Obama due to the colour of his skin.

^ Okay, your latent man love for roid-addled bodybuilders and often imcomprehensible proses aside:

- the OP claims to be skinny, and looks the part. Since he said he wanted to bulk up, that's all we need. And for bulking purpose, solid training and the amount of food consumed are of utmost importance, exactly what he eats is secondary.
- He also has a protruding belly - typical of the skinny fat. But as you oughtta know, it's entirely feasible, for a beginner anyway, to put on muscle while losing fat.

Originally Posted by skeen

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I certainly wouldn't go that far. Merely, I'm trying to gather a range of feedback, to enable me to form an informed conclusion about what I should do.

I am I think 5'11, about 155 pounds. My diet consists of...sort of everything. Certainly one step I need to take is cutting the junk food, and eating more vegetables.

My stomach just noticeably protrudes. I tell you what's odd, is that I can see abs under there! But it just sticks out, and does not suit me - you can see it in the photos somewhat.

I've been eating very unhealthily for the past few years - my situation is no doubt the result of excessive junk food, and it's all gone to my mid-section. All of it.

Based on your height and weight, I will venture to say you seem to be underweight. But being underweight depends on many factors like BMI and bodyfat measurement. I can tell you based on height and weight alone I will be overweight and in fact was classified as such by doctors until they seen me. But with a waist at 33 inches and at that weight, you would very well be overweight at least in the waist.

As for what you should do, going to gym won't make you lose weight.
You need to do cardio. Lots of it. If you cant wake up at 6 am, you can do it at night before dinner.
If you want to look muscularly toned, you can do bodyweight exercises like what you did or take up a sport like swimming but remember to increase intensity as you progress.

I dont' know why you immediately think of going to a gym. The dedication and hardwork and intelligence required for it may not be for you if you dont' intend to do gym seriously. If you do not intend to do gym seriously, why even bother unless you want to end up like the half baked morons here who think doing multiple sets of deadlifts and squats and benches and bent rows in a single workout is a great idea but in fact never did it at all but yap about it online.

As for diet, excess alcohol and junk food is clearly bad for you. You should eat healthy in a proportion of carbs and protein and maybe 15% fat. This would depend on the exercise you do. Ordinarily carbs would give you more energy throughout the day and protein builds muscles.

As for your belly with abs, well, I have seen fat people with muscles so what you say is hardly strange.

Originally Posted by whacked

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^ Okay, your latent man love for roid-addled bodybuilders and often imcomprehensible proses aside:

- the OP claims to be skinny, and looks the part. Since he said he wanted to bulk up, that's all we need. And for bulking purpose, solid training and the amount of food consumed are of utmost importance, exactly what he eats is secondary.
- He also has a protruding belly - typical of the skinny fat. But as you oughtta know, it's entirely feasible, for a beginner anyway, to put on muscle while losing fat.

Are you dumb or what?

You think nutrionists and real personal trainers (not the self professed ones here) give professional advice without proper bodyfat measurements and diet and medical history and cardio tests?

Does your doctor prescribe you medicine after you describe your symptoms on a phone?
Maybe if he is selling you crack from the back of his car!

Read my earlier advice to OP and weep, you one dimensional chump!

Originally Posted by whacked

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^ Okay, your latent man love for roid-addled bodybuilders

As for this part, I challenge you to prove any Mr Olympia is roid-addled! Prove it! PROVE IT!
If what you say is true, all Mr Olympias will be dope dealers.
But why is it your gym dope dealer (assuming you go to the gym) cannot even get a pro card no matter what he takes?

As for your lie about man love, you are obviously so homophobic you think NBA stars high fiving on the Court are doing it. Were you traumatised when young or what?

Thanks for the feedback. I think actually I may be a little shorter than 5'11, but certainly no more. My aim, generally is to get rid of the mid-section (at least to a level where it looks normal!) but also bulk up a little, with muscular definition. So, basically I need to do the whole shabang? Running, and free-weights? This may be asking too much, but what kind of a regimen do you think I should do? Thanks everyone so far!

Originally Posted by whacked

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- the OP claims to be skinny, and looks the part. Since he said he wanted to bulk up, that's all we need. And for bulking purpose, solid training and the amount of food consumed are of utmost importance, exactly what he eats is secondary.

This proves you will be a failure in any job that requires you to LISTEN to your customer.

He wants to lose his belly abs. Not look like some muscle bound moron.
And he aint gonna do that eating sirloins and protein shakes while doing the cockamanie workout of doing multiple olympic lifts 3 times a week as recommended by the morons here!

He will lose weight the old fashioned way. Doing cardio and having a proper diet!

Think about it chump! Are you here to help the OP or sabotage his efforts and laugh when he looks even fatter!

Originally Posted by beasty

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Are you dumb or what?

You think nutrionists and real personal trainers (not the self professed ones here) give professional advice without proper bodyfat measurements and diet and medical history and cardio tests?

Does your doctor prescribe you medicine after you describe your symptoms on a phone?
Maybe if he is selling you crack from the back of his car!

Read my earlier advice to OP and weep, you one dimensional chump!

Originally Posted by beasty

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As for this part, I challenge you to prove any Mr Olympia is roid-addled! Prove it! PROVE IT!
If what you say is true, all Mr Olympias will be dope dealers.
But why is it your gym dope dealer (assuming you go to the gym) cannot even get a pro card no matter what he takes?

As for your lie about man love, you are obviously so homophobic you think NBA stars high fiving on the Court are doing it. Were you traumatised when young or what?

Originally Posted by beasty

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This proves you will be a failure in any job that requires you to LISTEN to your customer.

He wants to lose his belly abs. Not look like some muscle bound moron.
And he aint gonna do that eating sirloins and protein shakes while doing the cockamanie workout of doing multiple olympic lifts 3 times a week as recommended by the morons here!

He will lose weight the old fashioned way. Doing cardio and having a proper diet!

Think about it chump! Are you here to help the OP or sabotage his efforts and laugh when he looks even fatter!

Mission accomplished.

Originally Posted by skeen

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Thanks for the feedback.

I think actually I may be a little shorter than 5'11, but certainly no more.

My aim, generally is to get rid of the mid-section (at least to a level where it looks normal!) but also bulk up a little, with muscular definition.

So, basically I need to do the whole shabang? Running, and free-weights? This may be asking too much, but what kind of a regimen do you think I should do?

Thanks everyone so far!

How old are you and how committed are you?

If you want just some muscular definition, your local gym should have some cardio or body shaping or circuit training you can sign up 2 to 3 times a week. This will achieve both your goals. Doing those on your own from a book and without people will not keep you motivated.

You NEED NOT embark on a gym programme unless you want noticeably chest, shoulders, arms etc. Are you willing to put on 10 kg and be 3 sizes bigger for that? If not, do what I say in the preceding paragraph.

Originally Posted by whacked

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Mission accomplished.

My mission is also accomplished.
My points about you being ignorant, out to sabotage others and overall moronic is proven true.

The OP and others here have eyes and brains.
Your tactics will not work here.
Go away like the other morons I have vanquished. Oh yeah!

I'm 22, and I'm very committed. I'll be starting my own business at the beginning of next year, which I have saved to fund - so I shall be working from home, giving me a significant amount of freedom. It will also enable me to eat right, being that I'll be making my own food.

I want to do whatever it takes. My goals are 2-fold: one, to lose some fat around the mid-section, with a goal toward becoming more toned. Then, once this is achieved, perhaps work on bulking up a bit more, but only for further definition - I don't want to be big.

Christ.

Ignoring the stupid ******* fighting that's taking place, I'll take a stab at your question.

At 5'11", I think you can reasonably support 175-180 lbs without being considered "too big".

You're 155 right now, and I feel like if you embark strictly on a cardio program, you'd get to 140-145, and you'd just look even scrawnier.

If I were you, I would just weight lift. I would start off by trying to eat better, but there's no reason to go crazy with the food right now. Get the weight regiment down, and see how it affects you. For now, just cut out the junk from your diet, and try to have a protein shake everyday.

I don't think this has to be an all or non proposition- running, at it's basic level, it's just cheap caloric burn. Weightlifting is also a form of caloric burn, but it's not as efficient. You could approximate the same caloric deficit by weightlifting + being smarter about your diet.

Just start slow and see where it takes you. You're not going to wake up one day and go "omfg, I'm too big!!" Like everything in life, this is going to be a gradual process. Definitely read the books that were suggested- they're really good, and even if you don't use the information now, it'll help you think long-term and you can think about you goals and where you want to be in the future.

Hope this helps!