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Andurew Choi

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So my AE walnut first avenue boots came in. Should there be a little slop or slack in my boots? theres a little bit of space behind my heels, perhaps 1/2 centimeter if I push my toes all the way forward. Also, I feel like a suburban dad with these boots on hahaha.
 

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12 Shoe minimum would probably be welcome by most members here. Certainly better than the alternate option of none. If it is on the scale of 500 orders then that doesn't seem particularly useful.

I agree. Mass Drop has the "mass" to make something like that happen. But I could see something akin to how Alden makes runs for retailers. Say something on the order of a few dozen, of course then you would likely pay something of a premium. Certainly nothing like the ridiculous deals that were crafted in the MTO/SMU golden age.
 

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Is anyone familiar with the Allen Edmonds Stougton loafer?

I ask because I just received a used pair and I'm wondering if it's worth it to have them recrafted. The uppers look good, except for a quarter-inch scratch on each toe. The soles, on the other hand, are completely shot.

Is it worth it to spend $125 to repair a shoe that might not be worth that much?


The shoe can be found in the 2000 AE catalog, style 42155 and this was made of Burgundy burnished calf.

In my experience, a kiltie tassel loafer is just not that popular these days. If you have them recrafted for $125 you will have successfully created a shoe that MIGHT sell as high as $60 on Ebay. More than likely it would be $40. I would only spend the money on them if I really liked the shoe and intended to keep it for personal wear for a long time.
 

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Have a meeting in Fort Myers tomorrow, packing up to fly tonight and just received my new computer bag from AE's clearance sale (still available).

Really happy with the quality and $247 price; I see a similar new bag with same dimensions selling at over $700.  My last leather bag tore at about 2 years, this thick leather is incomparable to that bag. 

I need it for Macbook Pro 13" (15 would easily fit), an iPad and assorted related items.

I was tempted on sight of this bag to also buy the $149 green canvas similar bag, it matches my Filson travel luggage.  


Did you happen to check the Shoebank for that bag also? I wonder if they might have the same bag at substantially less. A while back I picked up a "Park Ave" bag (very similar to yours) for $69 from the main outlet. That was a very limited-time deal, but I got the impression that they sold second-quality bags for a lot less.
 

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True. But I don't think those production issues are in play with C&J. From my lurking on the thread, they seem pretty strict on what is allowed and when production will be scheduled. There is also a 12 shoe minimum which was not the case with the AE SMU program.

All in all I think AE would be open to a GMTO of sufficient size. Not sure if if would have to be of the Mass Drop Chukka size or something more akin to the AE x SF Badlands GTMO.

Coincidently see my next post.
I'm not familiar with C&J's manufacturing at all so I wouldn't know either :) The AE SMU program didn't have a minimum, but you did pay an extra $125 to do it, which would help offset that cost *a little*.

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I remember those days very well, and those were sweet! Still kick myself for not getting on that.

Even at 12 pairs, for an operation like AE that is making hundreds of shoes a day, trying to fit that into production probably isn't going to be lucrative enough to put a whole lot of effort into making it happen.

Think for a casual shoe like the GMTO badlands, cost of that shoe to make is $100. Sell it for $300, at 12 pairs your only talking $2400. And that's assuming there's no damaged shoes or remakes. Now if it were a 50 pair minimum, that might be different.

All I'm saying is I don't think we're ever going to see a GMTO or SMU program like we used to have, which is a bummer.
 

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I love that edge and heel look so much that I picked up these blue CXL longwings made by that other USA shoe maker.

 

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Oh no! A pair of 8.5D Walnut First Aves popped back up on the clearance page! Now that I say this, they're bound to disappear again within minutes. I need to rush home to spend some more time in my 8.5D brown grain version to convince myself one way or the other if that size is going to work. Even with that, I'll probably miss the walnut pair. And even then, there's no guarantee that the walnut will fit better.
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They could put some stricter rules in place and still have a lot of takers. I actually think the old GMTO with a minimum of 12 per color worked better than the trunk shows as far as foul ups went.

They could announce this afternoon a natural (or Walnut) shell Dundee in a predetermined welt & sole and have three dozen folks on board by this time tomorrow if they would waive any MTO fee.

But, yes, I can see how it would interrupt regular production.
 

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The shoe can be found in the 2000 AE catalog, style 42155 and this was made of Burgundy burnished calf.

In my experience, a kiltie tassel loafer is just not that popular these days. If you have them recrafted for $125 you will have successfully created a shoe that MIGHT sell as high as $60 on Ebay. More than likely it would be $40. I would only spend the money on them if I really liked the shoe and intended to keep it for personal wear for a long time.

Thanks for the information.

The shoe is very comfortable and it was given to me by my older brother. For that reason alone, it has sentimental value. But I'm still going back and forth with the financial decision.

But hey, I am a sentimental guy so...
 

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Is anyone familiar with the Allen Edmonds Stougton loafer? I ask because I just received a used pair and I'm wondering if it's worth it to have them recrafted. The uppers look good, except for a quarter-inch scratch on each toe. The soles, on the other hand, are completely shot. Is it worth it to spend $125 to repair a shoe that might not be worth that much?
Will you get $125 of use out of it? That's all that matters. I would go to the shoebank, look at what $125-160 can buy and make the decision based on that.
 

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They could put some stricter rules in place and still have a lot of takers. I actually think the old GMTO with a minimum of 12 per color worked better than the trunk shows as far as foul ups went.

They could announce this afternoon a natural (or Walnut) shell Dundee in a predetermined welt & sole and have three dozen folks on board by this time tomorrow if they would waive any MTO fee.

But, yes, I can see how it would interrupt regular production.

I'd be in in a nano second.
 

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Did you happen to check the Shoebank for that bag also? I wonder if they might have the same bag at substantially less. A while back I picked up a "Park Ave" bag (very similar to yours) for $69 from the main outlet. That was a very limited-time deal, but I got the impression that they sold second-quality bags for a lot less.


Hmmm. I also just bought this bag. I liked the one you have as well. But didn't know there were any in circulation.

So stupid question. How do you find anything but belts and shoes on shoebank??? Or is that in store only???
 
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Hmmm. I also just bought this bag. I liked the one you have as well. But didn't know there were any in circulation.

So stupid question. How do you find anything but belts and shoes on shoebank??? Or is that in store only???


In-store or via telephone.
 

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Hmmm. I also just bought this bag. I liked the one you have as well. But didn't know there were any in circulation.

So stupid question. How do you find anything but belts and shoes on shoebank??? Or is that in store only???

I know the physical outlet locations have bags, but I never thought to ask if they were seconds. Will probably be up there next week, so I'll find out. But I suppose you could call an outlet and ask. If you have a working relationship with an SA or SM, they probably could search the system.
 

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I know everyone's foot is different, but man I disagree with this. From my experience that boot runs long. I'd say TTS, only if you are one of those that wear brannock in every AE shoe. If you drop for 65, then I think you absolutely must drop for the Cronmok. Maybe others can chime in, but I seem to recall comments on this forum and the reviews on AEs site claiming similar experience with the length.
Thanks for the replies, only quoting this one as it deals with several replies. My Branock is a 9D, which is what I wear in Long Branches, Higgins Mill's, Mora 2.0's, Dundee 2.0's, Warwick's and Carlyle's. I have a tiny bit of room in the LB's but wouldn't really want to go down a size.
 
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