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I bought 3 Tom Fords and I feel terrible about it.

bigbergers

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I'd probably purchase just 1 TF suit just to see how it fits and the overall quality then have my tailor copy the suit.
 

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I still think Tom Ford is the best RTW out there, in terms of fabric, construction, fit, and handsewn details. So you did well for a neophyte (although you did spend $18k). I'd recommend you keep them, since you can afford them; but go and spend some time reading about the bespoke process, and researching into the various top-end bespoke Houses in Italy and London. If it takes your fancy, bespoke tailoring will bring you a lot of pleasure for the rest of your life.
 

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This is true, and Jeffrey's photo shows it well - compare to many examples of bespoke on this forum that fit less well or no better.

With RTW and MTM, it is all about whether the "block" fits you to start with. From experience, you can never get the same fit from RTW/MTM that you can from good (good) bespoke, unless you are one of the 1% of people whose body shape exactly matches the "block". But you can get very, very close.

Example: I get compliments (and photograph well) in an RTW summer suit (properly altered) that cost me around $200 on sale. As many compliments as traditional paper-pattern, single cutter, Royal Warrrant bespoke costing 20 or more times as much. Why? Because the shoulders and chest fit me very well, and the rest has been tweaked to fit. Of course, the RTW suit doesn't have my preferred pocket layout, has slightly larger than desired armholes, and is made of a mass-market cloth with polyester thread and won't last anything like the bespoke, but who cares for the price of a decent dinner for two?

Unless you are an odd shape (and I am just enough tall and long-limbed to meet my definition of "odd"), I am increasingly of the view that the best options are RTW that fits where it is crucial (shoulders, chest, balance, sleeve pitch), with alterations where it isn't, or high-end bespoke, and ignore the middle ground of MTM and bargain (especialy online) bespoke.


Agree completely. I have nearly a dozen excellent bespoke suits and odd jackets but find that the Brooks Brothers Madison line and Ralph Lauren's Black Label fits me wonderfully, especially after my bespoke tailor (who, blessedly, does alterations) tweaks them a bit.

The downsides with ready-to-wear are you don't get the exact style you may like (I go for a hard three-button, double vented, Poole-style jacket and relatively high waisted, double pleated trousers with side adjusters when I go bespoke but, of course, could never find that off the rack) and your fabric choices are limited. But if you find yourself happy enough with what's available in the models that fit, it's a good way to round out your wardrobe without going broke.

No experience with MTM or cheap pseudo-bespoke. No interest given the above.
 

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I do not know who makes the Suits for TF. I have seen the top of the line shirts from TF
they are beautiful. really well made. the price is obscene, but i can't quibble with fabric or construction.
so if it fits, enjoy.
your problem is that there is no way the pants will fit properly, no matter how much alteration is done.
if you go to the TF boutique, see if it is possible to order the jacket and pants in different sizes
they can cut to order.
I don't know how many custom tailors are going to cut a suit that will look like Tom ford


Agree. There was a bespoke tailoring website a couple of years ago (which one escapes me at the moment) which cut-up a Tom Ford suit to examine the construction. The verdict - the best RTW suit the man had ever seen and the equal in many ways of a bespoke.

I understand, however, that the legendary Edward Sexton in London has a house style that's not too far from Tom Ford's (in fact, he's been cited occasionally as claiming - without much rancor - that Ford ripped off style). So if I liked Tom Ford and had the time and cash for it, I'd give Sexton a shot.
 

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Absolutely amazing advice !

By the way I put the midnight blue TF on for my wife . She said it looked painted on. I am sure
That a custom would look better but I am relatively happy with these Fords now .

I like a tight fit around the Ribs and it seems to really cut in beautifully .

I'm clearly not knowledgeable to pick out my own custom suit but in the future I will just let the tailor pick it out for me or bring in ome of my fords or guccis and say "do something like this" .
I don't have any other choice and I'm dying to see what a custom feels like !

I've heard that the inside of a custom suit has a sort of a canvas or something that is body forming .... They can even put in a litt bit of muscle to make the chest look just right ? Is this true ?

I don't know but I can't wait to start my adventure .

Thanks for all the help and advice with my new found hobby :).


Worry not - your Tom Fords are fully canvassed, just like a bespoke suit. And Ford is all about the muscular upper-body look (the inverted triangle) so you're unlikely to have done much better on that front by going bespoke.
 

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Jesus F'ing Christ!

I just went to Sexton's website to see what he's doing these days and that thing is a disaster! I couldn't get that stupid song to stop playing, had to use the computer because my ipad wont render the entirely flash-based website.

The man may be a genius with cloth but someone needs to punch his web designer.
 

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Jesus F'ing Christ!

I just went to Sexton's website to see what he's doing these days and that thing is a disaster! I couldn't get that stupid song to stop playing, had to use the computer because my ipad wont render the entirely flash-based website.

The man may be a genius with cloth but someone needs to punch his web designer.


The site works great on a computer. He probably had it designed before iPads took over and screwed up all the over-the-top bells and whistles.

Seriously, if I ever get to London, I'm seeing Sexton for a suit. One of the greatest - if not THE greatest - bespoke tailors alive today and I quite like his style.
 

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I was thinking whose style might fit the OP's love of TF, and I thought Edward Sexton. Might want to look into it OP...
 

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Suit looks great to me.

You can definitely find a custom tailor to make you a suit cut like Tom Ford. And you'd probably save a couple thousand dollars per suit.

Check my "Best Custom Clothier in America" thread for my experiences (and several recommendations from other users) with custom clothing.

So far, I've had some okay, good and amazing experiences with bespoke. But, overall, I definitely prefer custom to rack. Find a creative and reputable tailor and you won't turn back.

Thanks for that !!! I will absolutely check out your list.... THANK YOU!!!
I live in NY so i hope some NY places will be on that list.

I'll drive into Manhattan but I live in Westchester and there's this Tailor by the name of Tony Mancino . Has anyone every heard of him ? Check him out here at

Www.Mancinotailors.com .

Now I already have a blue , a black , grey ford ....also have blue and black Gucci , and am eszterhasz box design Gucci , a sort of silver Guccl and then a bunch of crappy boss which I use on b.s. days.

So I think the next sensible thing is a blue pinstripe custom made to round out the wardrobe . You think that's right?

Can they do the same with shirts? I love the Ford collar.....
 

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