Tom Ford

[Ford]

Hey everyone,

I'm contemplating making a sizable purchase in a Tom Ford Shelton suit. For reference, I'm 6' 190lbs, athletic fit. Having tried the base A, I'm definitely more interested in a modern cut. From my limited understanding it has more of classic fit, so I'm guessing 42R would be appropriate.

I hope this question doesn't come off as ignorant, as I'm truthfully just introducing myself to bespoke and higher quality brands but can a decent tailor replicate the look/feel for half the price? Is there any brand, that's OTR that has a similar silhouette, or is TF unique in this space.

Thanks much

 

[clee1982]

Go to TF/Neiman Marcus/Saks Fifth store nail down your size buy on eBay? Shelton should be under $1.5k easy

 

[clee1982]

Most bespoke guy who has fit similar to TF probably are English top guys which will cost you more than TF. You can get some of the cheaper Italian guys to deviate from their look but I wouldn’t bother you would risk more.

If you’re kind hard to fit RTW I suppose SuitSupply MTM in Washington can give you poor man TF, though I would think you would need to guide SuitSupply guys a lot before they give you something overly slim

 

[pwc008]

I have a number or TF garments. I don't think you can get near to the quality & look of TF without going over what TF costs, especially during NM or BG markdown time.

Of course, they are all cut slim, even the Windsor. I have one Windsor suit & sport coat; one Shelton suit; and one O'Conner suit. I am hard pressed to tell them apart in terms of fit. In terms of look, the Windsor is the most classic, followed by the Shelton (probably my fave), followed by the O'Conner. FWIW, the Windsors & O'Conner are double vented; the Shelton is single vented. The Windsor and Shelton suits are peak lapel; the Windsor jacket is large notch lapel (like Husbands); and the O'Conner is a small lapel, but not as a small as the O'Conner POW suit in No Time to Die.

 

[clee1982]

This is a good description

TOM FORD Base / Fit Overview – The Ultimate Guide | Costume Limité

www.costumelimite.com

Hum, Maybe because I’m smaller size (US 36) I would definitely not call Windsor slim, it’s just normal.

O’Conner felt slimmer to me than Windsor.

 

[Ford]

Thanks for everyone’s responses. I’ve had trouble finding anything decent on eBay, mostly new garments at around $3,000.

I know there’s a few other sites: Grailed, Poshmark, Mercari - but I prefer eBay as their service is predictable.

 

[clee1982]

Are you 100% sure about size? If you’re not in a hurry just set up an alert and wait. Also have you tried the real real, they have stupid price there, and mostly returnable (but you do pay some fee to return)

 

[Ford]

Are you 100% sure about size? If you’re not in a hurry just set up an alert and wait. Also have you tried the real real, they have stupid price there, and mostly returnable (but you do pay some fee to return)

Pretty sure. 42r, or 52 in basic A was snug but decent.

I’ll check out realreal. Forgot about that site!

 

[othertravel]

If you want 'modern', O'Connor is your best bet. Skinnier lapels, trimmer fit. I have to size up from Windsor in O'Connor.

Shelton is in many respects a softer and trimmer version of Windsor. Whereas Windsor has three layers of canvas to create a strong chest, Shelton has two layers. The Shelton also has a thinner shoulder pad.

Shelton can also be had in a double vent.

Atticus and Cooper are similar to Windsor, and have slightly higher gorges.

Also, what's your budget?

 

[clee1982]

hum I took same size in O'Conner and Windsor but yea O'Conner is definitely slimmer, but also my least favorite TF cut (as in why TF in that case, could do lots of something else)

I feel like my Atticus runs longer too (vs. Shelton), I like Shelton as modern Windsor though hard to find side vent Shelton on sale for whatever reason (eBay too, nearly every Shelton on eBay I see are center vent)

 

[othertravel]

hum I took same size in O'Conner and Windsor but yea O'Conner is definitely slimmer, but also my least favorite TF cut (as in why TF in that case, could do lots of something else)

I feel like my Atticus runs longer too (vs. Shelton), I like Shelton as modern Windsor though hard to find side vent Shelton on sale for whatever reason (eBay too, nearly every Shelton on eBay I see are center vent)

Agree about O'Connor. It seems to be the least unique look out of the models.

I would love to do MTM through TF one day. They're one of the only RTW designers offering double forward pleated trousers as part of their MTM program.

Bonus - Here's Jon Hamm in Shelton:

 

[clee1982]

what's the px for TF MtM, I would assume you might as well pay English bespoke at that point, all the TF I got were like $1k top..., if I was to spend in the range of $7k+ I would just go all out and pay for something like Micahel Browne for whatever his current px is...

 

[othertravel]

what's the px for TF MtM, I would assume you might as well pay English bespoke at that point, all the TF I got were like $1k top..., if I was to spend in the range of $7k+ I would just go all out and pay for something like Micahel Browne for whatever his current px is...

My honest, and serious answer? Fly to Milan, where you can get MTM about $3,500 USD at their flagship. No VAT, or overseas markup.

 

[clee1982]

wow, that's quite a differential, I would imagine Madison store charge $5k+ easy... (never bother to inquire, but just random guess)

 

[othertravel]

Up here in Toronto, it now starts at $7k CAD. It's essentially Zegna's luxury brand.