WAYWRN: Classic Menswear, Casual Style



Holdfast said:

LOL, thanks. I've had that hat for ages, so it's been worn a lot. It's gotten pretty battered, not to mention soaked in various oceans & seas over the years. I guess that makes it easier to wear naturally.

Pretty good. Had a few commitments out there, which was the main reason for the trip, but combined that with a few extra days off in Athens to do some sight-seeing and another few days or so in the Ionian islands and on the beach. Weather was glorious and the food was awesome. Managed to avoid getting embroiled in any of the troubles they're having over there, though heard plenty of stories of woe, saw lots of protestors/marches, and riot police and the like trying to keep order. The strikes didn't really affect me though; was able to dodge the taxi strikes by using public transit and managed to avoid the general transit strike (including air travel) today by a matter of hours. Made me realise that however bad the UK (or US, come to that) economy is, we're having it easy compared to the giant never-ending clusterfuck that is the Greek economy.

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Glad you were lucky! It's always nice to have a little vacation. Also, I think the fact that you were using public transportation might have somewhat added to the enjoyment and the experience. In fact, whenever I come to a foreign city, I try to use the public transportation. Gives you a better idea of how people live.



FlyingMonkey said:

Now this is much better in terms of critique, thank-you.

For some explanation,

1. The jeans are about as far from Clarkson as you can get - that's just a low blow! Clarkson's problem is wearing cheap, straight jeans that are way to tight and make his rather substantial belly even more prominent. That's hardly my problem. And the jeans are not in any way the same kind of style. He wouldn't know Japanese denim if it bit him on the arse.

2. The top isn't at all monotone. Clearly, one of the problems is photo quality - as I said, they were just done with the webcam on my Mac: the jeans are much darker in reality, the vest (not a cardigan) is straight brown but has texture to it, the shirt is a small purple gingham, the tweed jacket has a mix of browns and mustard. Almost nothing looks right in terms of colour in that photo and you can't see the textures, which are equally important. But you know, really, I am not sure I can be bothered going to the effort of taking proper photos, downloading and uploading etc... we'll see.

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As someone who deals with criticism on a daily basis, I'd like to give you a tip: Keep your mouth shut (figuratively, of course). If you don't agree with something, just let it pass. Don't get defensive. It's not personal. All we know about you is contained in 73 posts.



acecow said:

In fact, whenever I come to a foreign city, I try to use the public transportation. Gives you a better idea of how people live.

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I was planning on it for San Francisco, which Lefty claims is foreign.

Holdfast said:

Spoiler: Holdfast@Athens

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I love these shots. Definitely a recommendation for Loro Piana.



NOBD said:

It's worth it if you really want to show textures and colours (although getting colours right isn't always easy). It's hard to show – and judge, people... – fabrics/textures without decent pictures.

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wow, this is great.



FlyingMonkey said:

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As a matter of interest, how old do you think I am?

As for the rest, I just don't think you get the point of mixing vintage with contemporary stuff. It's not your thing, that's fine. But I know what I'm doing and I like it.

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You look in your mid thirties. We're not talking about contemporary, we're talking about making you look old. I know you think that the selvedge jeans and the brogues are "young" and "hip" , but not in that blue hue and fit, and no.

here's what I wore today.

You look like a really nice guy.



Eason said:

You look like a really nice guy.

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you're a real dick, Eason

Thanks, ThinkDerm.


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acecow said:

I have the 1.4 version of that lens. Beautiful pictures, but the zoom is unbearable. I should've gotten the 28mm or even 14mm.

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What zoom? I see what you mean. I sometimes use this 50 mm (the plastic fantastic or nifty fifty) for portraits, but you have to get rather close to the subject. For the money it's a great thing though—skip one good tie and you have this lens.

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Eason said:

You look in your mid thirties. We're not talking about contemporary, we're talking about making you look old. I know you think that the selvedge jeans and the brogues are "young" and "hip" , but not in that blue hue and fit, and no.

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Interesting. You are wrong on both counts about both my age (older) and what I might think (hilariously wrong). And you miss the point of what I've already said, indicating you don't bother reading what other people post properly. I guess that answers my question above about whether you are worth taking seriously. But thanks, seriously, it's been a pleasure. I'm just sorry we won't be having one of these pleasant chats again.

Van Veen said:

As someone who deals with criticism on a daily basis, I'd like to give you a tip: Keep your mouth shut (figuratively, of course). If you don't agree with something, just let it pass. Don't get defensive. It's not personal. All we know about you is contained in 73 posts.

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Thank-you for your advice but, with respect, you may be making the common mistake of assuming too much based on too little. I don't take anything here personally and I am not being defensive, I simply have no fear of engaging in debate. I'm not here to bolster my ego, I am genuinely interested in learning, and I've noticed that some posters here have a 'hit and run' mentality which they may think is amusing, isn't very helpful, and will not lead to people actually improving their style choices in any way. That only comes through a bit more interaction, and correcting misconceptions is part of that. I have already learned some useful things from some of the critiques here, not just about clothes, but also about what's worth posting in terms of pictures (I am certainly not going to use my webcam to take pictures for critique again), and also a little about which members' opinions I can have some respect for and look out for in future, and which are simply to be ignored (see response above).

Having said that, I think this particular discussion has run its course.



FlyingMonkey said:

Thank-you for your advice but, with respect, you may be making the common mistake of assuming too much based on too little. I don't take anything here personally and I am not being defensive, I simply have no fear of engaging in debate. I'm not here to bolster my ego, I am genuinely interested in learning, and I've noticed that some posters here have a 'hit and run' mentality which they may think is amusing, isn't very helpful, and will not lead to people actually improving their style choices in any way. That only comes through a bit more interaction, and correcting misconceptions is part of that. I have already learned some useful things from some of the critiques here, not just about clothes, but also about what's worth posting in terms of pictures (I am certainly not going to use my webcam to take pictures for critique again), and also a little about which members' opinions I can have some respect for and look out for in future, and which are simply to be ignored (see response above).

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You realize that you're now defending yourself against my suggestion to be less defensive, right? Besides, criticism is not debate. There's no argument involved. If you're really not here to bolster your ego, then there should be no need to respond to nearly every piece of criticism with some kind of excu... ahem, correction of a misconception. Plus, you need to realize there is a "put up or shut up" mentality here, and rightfully so. As an example, people respect iammatt's opinion and deal with his acerbic comments because he's a fantastic dresser, and he has proven it with photos. This is the reason I rarely offer my opinion unless I feel something's been missed. I would suggest that you look at the history of posters like mktitsworth and Digmenow who started out being harshly criticized, but took the criticism and used it to improve their style rather than correcting what they may have perceived as misconceptions.



NOBD said:

Thanks, ThinkDerm.


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like the blend NOBD!

Just the clothes and deets today:

From my FB page, this is as casual as I get!



Threadbearer said:

Great pic. What kind of camera did you use?

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