Originally Posted by Mr Herbert
when i started competitively weightlifting i started monitoring my calories because its an advantage to stay close but to, but not go over, a weight class.
i was also given advice that getting most of my daily vitamin and mineral intake was important for recovery from training. i decided to try and do this without taking multivitamins and the way i managed to achieve this was by eating lots of nutritionally dense food.
maybe wanting to be good at my chosen sport is an emotional/psychological reason. however, i train hard and limit my intake to less than 2000 calories a day of fruit, vegetables and meat - i dont really classify that as binge eating.
i understand your point about "traditional" diets with traditional portion sizes however your use of greece as an example of an idealised diet is curious. greeks are as fat as americans.
I didn't realize that you're a weight lifter. That changes the game quite a bit, and I know you guys have to be very clinical about what you eat.
Greece is a lot farther down the list of fattest countries, but it is one of the highest in the EU. But I think my example still stands... Italy, France, Spain blah blah... they eat very well and manage to stay thin.
I eat about 2000 calories a day, sometimes less, and I eat only what I want. I think people need to learn more about food and they'll see that they can eat great proteins and fats on a reasonable daily caloric intake.
Matt eats quite well and I'm sure he's not going over ~2000, and Piobare, bless him, has LOST WEIGHT eating foie gras, butter, bacon, pork belly, and any animal that can be braised, cured, or cooked sous vide. These are anecdotes but the numbers just make sense.
The biggest reason trainers and dieticians recommend bland food is because this country has a shitty food tradition outside of a few small pockets in the south. As a country, we have very little understanding of food and therefore we think in order to be healthy, calories are all that matters and we have to almost "punish" ourselves. Also, with habitual binge eating, people want to keep the volume but cut the calories. It's a shame.
But again, I didn't realize that you're a weightlifter. But on 2000 cal a day, eggs would be absolutely no problem for you. I'm friends with a big time trainer that has trained some very famous people for films, including a guy that is known mostly for his incredible physique. He wants ALL of his clients to start their day with 2-3 poached eggs. Every day.