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Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

a 10 year old car can be compared to a newer car in this way

in the field of all performance sedans which stood out more in the group?
the e39 was in a league of its own
the e60 was mired in the field

is this because the e39 was much more advanced or that others caught up? probably both

as far as a discussion with me = banging head against wall, lol

junior varsity · Apr 26, 2012

Find Finn said:
I can honestly say I would rather have a discussion with Arthur or bang my head in to a concrete wall, then keep trying to reason with you..

same here so why dont we move on to the aston martin...
pix or it didnt happen

hhenryhhh · Apr 26, 2012

Wish these could still be had in factory showroom condition. Would get one in white or silver. You guys can go ahead and laugh at my peasant taste in automobiles

Find Finn · Apr 26, 2012

junior varsity said:
same here so why dont we move on to the aston martin...
pix or it didnt happen

/deal

Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

this thing is growing on me

RFX45 · Apr 26, 2012

I'm not really an M5 fan but the new frozen gray paint is pretty nice. Has any other car manufacturer offered matte paint from factory before?

Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

BMW offered it (still does) on e92 M3's, special order/edition iirc

Find Finn · Apr 26, 2012

RFX45 said:
I'm not really an M5 fan but the new frozen gray paint is pretty nice. Has any other car manufacturer offered matte paint from factory before?

Mercedes Magno paints are matte.

Lamborghini offered the Gallardo in matte brown, blue, white and black.

KurtS90 · Apr 26, 2012

Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

hmmm, no wax or drying apparently (edit: gentle drying with a chamois is OK)

BMW Individual Frozen Paint Guidelines:

Matt Russell, BMW NA M Brand and ALPINA Manager, and Tim Reiter, BMW Body & Paint Technical Specialist, tell us more about the washing and maintenance process of the matte paint colors.
Among many tips for those owners with “frozen” paint finishes, here are a few that stand out:

Use a regular shampoo and insect remover
Microfiber cloth, wax, sealant and final inspection cleaner can damage the matte paint
Do not polish or wax the vehicle
No mechanical means of cleaning the surface
Remove insect remains, tar and other residues immediately

BMW Individual Frozen Paint Guidelines - YouTube

GreenFrog · Apr 26, 2012

Arthur PE said:
this thing is growing on me

i really liked audis earlier b8 models, but these new ones with the silver lips and crazy led lights are turning me off, actually.

bmw4life!

Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

GreenFrog said:
i really liked audis earlier b8 models, but these new ones with the silver lips and crazy led lights are turning me off, actually.
bmw4life!

the silver trim is an option, I think you can get it black or body colored
I like the lights myself

on the road they really have a presence, the A5/S5 look really good imo

junior varsity · Apr 26, 2012

hhenryhhh said:
Wish these could still be had in factory showroom condition. Would get one in white or silver. You guys can go ahead and laugh at my peasant taste in automobiles

i think peoples suits on here are more expensive than that... :laugh:

RFX45 · Apr 26, 2012

Arthur PE said:
hmmm, no wax or drying apparently (edit: gentle drying with a chamois is OK)

BMW Individual Frozen Paint Guidelines:

Matt Russell, BMW NA M Brand and ALPINA Manager, and Tim Reiter, BMW Body & Paint Technical Specialist, tell us more about the washing and maintenance process of the matte paint colors.
Among many tips for those owners with “frozen” paint finishes, here are a few that stand out:

Use a regular shampoo and insect remover

Microfiber cloth, wax, sealant and final inspection cleaner can damage the matte paint

Do not polish or wax the vehicle

No mechanical means of cleaning the surface

Remove insect remains, tar and other residues immediately

BMW Individual Frozen Paint Guidelines - YouTube

No microfiber cloths? It's pretty since it seems like a low maintenance paint but it will probably look like **** after a little bit of dust gets on it. I wonder how durable the paint is though. Also I think there are matte waxes out there now, probably a good choice to add a layer of protection to the paint.

Arthur PE · Apr 26, 2012

RFX45 said:
No microfiber cloths?
It's pretty since it seems like a low maintenance paint but it will probably look like **** after a little bit of dust gets on it. I wonder how durable the paint is though. Also I think there are matte waxes out there now, probably a good choice to add a layer of protection to the paint.

I've yet to see one, I'm guessing it's pretty good at hiding smudges and dust, since it's not a shiney surface
I bet washed and blown dry it looks good, I like the low maintenance aspect
I wonder how it holds up? they make some pretty amazing and durable industrial finishes now, and since smoothness is not a concern I bet they can make it very durable
only time will tell, they had some issues in the early 2000's when the germans switched to a water based (vs solvent) paint

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