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Hey guys. So my club Monaco shell macneils arrived and I'm looking for a little help determining how these may break in. I measure between a 9.5 and 10 on the brannoc, pretty much d width as well. However I have low insteps. 10s are always enormous on me, so I ordered a 9 and a 9.5 just for reference. The 9.5s actually feel pretty great, with the caveat that with my low instep, the quarters come together a good bit already. For those of you with these shoes, do they tend to break a good bit over time? I just don't want to go through the process of breaking in a nice pair of shell shoes just to have them start looking odd with the quarters touching. Any thoughts are appreciated.

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Originally Posted by rogejo321 View Post

Hey guys. So my club Monaco shell macneils arrived and I'm looking for a little help determining how these may break in. I measure between a 9.5 and 10 on the brannoc, pretty much d width as well. However I have low insteps. 10s are always enormous on me, so I ordered a 9 and a 9.5 just for reference. The 9.5s actually feel pretty great, with the caveat that with my low instep, the quarters come together a good bit already. For those of you with these shoes, do they tend to break a good bit over time? I just don't want to go through the process of breaking in a nice pair of shell shoes just to have them start looking odd with the quarters touching. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Great color on those and shell generally will not stretch like calf will...worse case down the road if you wear them a ton and they do stretch some you could always add a tongue pad to give a little volume.

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Originally Posted by Odradek View Post

Does a Poron insole affect sizing.

I have two pairs of AE Brooks Brothers shoes with the Poron insole, MacNeil and Shelton, and since I'm in Europe and far from any AE store, they were bought with the aid of the print out size guide from the AE website. Both 8.5D.
Both fit very well, and in the case of the Shelton, maybe a little snug.

A few months ago I bought another pair of MacNeils, (or Schautals, as I later found out they were), also 8.5D, but with the regular AE insole.
These are a much more roomy fit.

Now I've just taken delivery of a pair of second hand Sheltons bought from ebay.
8.5D again, but almost too big. I can see myself buying insoles for these.

Does the Poron insole really affect size like that? Or is that just some variation in manufacture?

One reason I ask is that I have a third pair of Sheltons, which I bought back in the summer from the Shoebank, and had shipped to my sister-in-law in the US. She's finally gong to bring them over to me for Christmas.
Question is, if it were possible, should I try return them for a 8D?

Is that simply out of the question given the time that's passed?

Some photos of the two pairs of Sheltons. Both 8.5D.
The tan with brown saddle are the Brooks Brothers ones, which fit well, though that V hasn't closed as much as I'd like in the past 18 months I've owned them.

The all over brownish ones are second-hand AE. Bought as an experiment. I plan to strip them and re-colour them.
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And, unlaced, with my toe pushed forward as far as I can...
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For some people the poron makes a huge difference and every so often I believe that Brooks Brothers by AE are made on different lasts than the AE version. So you may have a combo of factors.

 

Calf will stretch and that is one of the perils of buying off of ebay used..you just do not know if the person who owned them hasd the right size meaning they could have been tight for that person but they wore them anyway and stretched them.

 

If the shoes have never been worn AE will take them back for an exchange

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

For some people the poron makes a huge difference and every so often I believe that Brooks Brothers by AE are made on different lasts than the AE version. So you may have a combo of factors.

Calf will stretch and that is one of the perils of buying off of ebay used..you just do not know if the person who owned them hasd the right size meaning they could have been tight for that person but they wore them anyway and stretched them.

If the shoes have never been worn AE will take them back for an exchange


Thanks.

Yes I think both of those factors are at play here. The used shoes hop doubt have been stretched a bit, and I contacted AE and been told that the Poron insoles do affect sizing.
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Thank you for your inquiry.
The poron insole will bring your foot up slightly in the shoe giving it a snug fit. If the shoe you are interested in does not have the insole I would suggest to go down 1/2 size.

So I was about to exchange my new pair of 8.5D Sheltons for 8D when I got the following conflicting opinions from two other AE stores.
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Generally your assumption is true. Poron fit snugger than leather insoles.
However, in terms of Shelton, if a customer fits in 8.5 Allen Edmonds with regular insole shoes we generally would start the fit from a 9 when a customer asks for Shelton.
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I have noticed the same thing with the Poron insoled shoes since I have one of our shoes from Brooks Brothers that has the poron insoles. I wore the same size between the two models even though the models on our line without the Poron insole are slightly looser. I would say if the pair you have already without the poron insole is slipping off the back heel because it is that long, then I would try a half size down or else I would stay in the same size.

Now more confused than ever.
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Does anyone know of any AE belts that are 1" wide? It looks like most of their belts are nearly 1.5" wide, which does not look right with a slim-cut suit on a slim frame.
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Does anyone know of any AE belts that are 1" wide? It looks like most of their belts are nearly 1.5" wide, which does not look right with a slim-cut suit on a slim frame.

Depends on the belt. I think my Color 8 belt is about 1".

-Mike
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Does anyone know of any AE belts that are 1" wide? It looks like most of their belts are nearly 1.5" wide, which does not look right with a slim-cut suit on a slim frame.

Depends on the belt. I think my Color 8 belt is about 1".

-Mike

 

The Poplar is 32mm, which is just over an inch.  It's a cool belt because it comes with both brass and silver buckles.  I got it to go with a pair of non-AE double monks that have brass hardware, but I like having the option of using the silver buckle with it as well.

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I know MTO Eagle County boots are all the rage haha, but my originals serve their purpose very well. Treated with HDLP, perfect for the winter and aging very gracefully. Snagged mine as seconds for $129 last winter, could not be more happy with them.

 

 

Anyone know the best way to clean up Vibram soles though?, they are getting a bit dirty. I tried a Magic Eraser but it didn't work very well at all.

 

 

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I know MTO Eagle County boots are all the rage haha, but my originals serve their purpose very well. Treated with HDLP, perfect for the winter and aging very gracefully. Snagged mine as seconds for $129 last winter, could not be more happy with them.

 

 

Anyone know the best way to clean up Vibram soles though?, they are getting a bit dirty. I tried a Magic Eraser but it didn't work very well at all.

 

 

 

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try a bleach and water mixture maybe?

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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

I know MTO Eagle County boots are all the rage haha, but my originals serve their purpose very well. Treated with HDLP, perfect for the winter and aging very gracefully. Snagged mine as seconds for $129 last winter, could not be more happy with them.

 

 

Anyone know the best way to clean up Vibram soles though?, they are getting a bit dirty. I tried a Magic Eraser but it didn't work very well at all.

 

 

 

How did you size compared to the 565 last?

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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

I know MTO Eagle County boots are all the rage haha, but my originals serve their purpose very well. Treated with HDLP, perfect for the winter and aging very gracefully. Snagged mine as seconds for $129 last winter, could not be more happy with them.

 

 

Anyone know the best way to clean up Vibram soles though?, they are getting a bit dirty. I tried a Magic Eraser but it didn't work very well at all.

 

 

 

I got a pair of the original EC seconds for $129 too, and I love them!  They do great in the winter (except as far as traction in lots of snow . . . but now I have the Long Branch to help me there).  Honestly, as much as I've enjoyed looking at the MTO ECs, I like the original best with the more casual wedge sole.

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try a bleach and water mixture maybe?

 

 

 

Will try it out, that actually reminded me of a bathroom cleaner cream with bleach I used when I was younger on my running shoes to clean them up. Should work too.

 

 

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How did you size compared to the 565 last?

 

They are a size 8D, it turned out snug and probably should have went 8E. I did stretch them out a bit with some socks on a shoe tree and work fine now.

 

I find it fits slightly more narrow compared to the 5 last in the same size. 

post #52738 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Claus View Post


Try the Allen Edmonds sizing guide. Ignore the width, and only measure the lenght. You can substract half a size to get your correct size.
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Subtract half a size?
Is there a consensus on this?

I'm just a hair over the line of a size 8 on that size guide. AE recommends going up to the next line, making me 8.5.
Should I ignore that and stick to a size 8D?
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Ready to go to the wife's company Christmas party....walnut strands the shoe du jour.
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Wore the MTO (rubber soles) black Rutledges today.  All of my shoes have rubber soles (a safety requirement on the railroad).  I took this picture on a train earlier today.

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