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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. Churchill W

    Churchill W Well-Known Member

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    I tried using them on a pair of Fifth Streets when they were on clearance and the manager did not let me. I think it's YMMV. I think the card actually has exclusions printed on it.
    My shell models fit looser than my calf ones.
    I disagree with wanting the quarters completely closed on oxford shoes. If they close completely when new they are eventually going to be too loose when the leather stretches and/or when the cork compresses, assuming that the shoes have cork. I have read that some handmade shoes do not. If you don't expect the leather to stretch and there is no cork then by all means go ahead and buy them if they fit well with the quarters completely closed.
     
  2. optopi314

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    With my McAllisters and Strands being my first AE shoes, I'm not entirely educated about the recrafting. Additionally they are my first "real" shoes- I've never had leather soles or anything else AE does for that matter. I know about rotating them, but how do I know when they are due for recrafting? I've tried searching google but can't find a good answer. Do I tell by the thickness of the sole or is it just a time based thing?
    Thanks again. All of you have been more than helpful with my naïvité.
     
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    Can you please post a pic of those when you receive them. I'm thinking of getting a pair of those, but the reviews on the AE site say they look black as opposed to navy.

    Thanks
     
  4. New Shoes1

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    Per a prior request, attached are pictures of the suede strands I'm probably returning and a pair of Carminas on one of their more elongated lasts.



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    Its time to recraft when you wear through the soles and can see the cork!
     
  6. bellyhungry

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    Just bought a pair of grey Banchory from the Shoebank. Can't wait for its arrival. :slayer:
     
  7. MoneyWellSpent

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    Pretty much... give or take. The more conservative types will send them in when they are very soft and spongy feeling in the center, indicating that they are about to wear through. The more liberal types will wait until they have a visible hole, sometimes dime sized or larger. The high-end manufacturers tend to recommend sending them in using the sponginess indicator. AE and the more economical brands will typically show visible holes with cork showing in their photos.

    Personally, I monitor my shoes very carefully as they begin to turn spongy, and I immediately quit wearing them the day that I spot a hole (which usually means it's pin sized). The longer you wear them after they reach that point, the greater your risk of insole/inseam damage, which is irreversible on any Goodyear-welted shoe manufactured by a company that won't replace the insole (which AE won't). Inseam damage results from the canvas gemming being damaged by dirt/water that gets under the sole. AE probably does some light or spot repair to the canvas if needed, but I sort of doubt that they will replace it entirely in the event of major failure like some companies will. Once your shoes reach the spongy stage, I would try to be much more careful about wearing them in wet weather.
     
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    Thank you very much! Just what I was looking for in terms of advice!
     
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    Hmm.....I think I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on some shell Park Aves. Sadly, I doubt that anyone stocks multiple models to try!

    Conensus seems to be to go down in length, and in most times up in width. However, the shell models may fit looser than calf. I doubt it's a size width's bigger though, so I think I'll go 8.5E (TTS 9D)
     
  10. bkotsko

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    I would not wait until there is a hole in the sole.
    I think the rule of thumb is when there is a soft spot on the sole, and before it has broken through to the midsole or cork.
    If you wait too long, you can cause more harm than good.
    just my $0.02

    Apparently I didn't see MWS's post.
     
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    I suggest trying on a calf version and going with that size. We have approximately the same size foot, so I agree you will likely end up with 8.5 D/E.
     
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    Who said that the quarters should close completely when new? I know I had said the exact opposite:

     
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    MWS always provides great advice, I'll certainly send mine in sooner having read that.

    ^ for the shell PA's concern, FWIW I haven't found the shell vs calf fit to be so different that it warrants a size change when going from one to another...
     
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    +1
     
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    Thanks guys!

    I own several pairs of Aldens but these will be my first AEs. I know how odd sizing can be, but I'm not going to wait months for Alden when AE is offering a brown shell option.
     
  16. tuckfro

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    So, it seems that there are no Long Branch seconds in my size. I ended up biting the bullet and ordering from the website. I figure, I saved $100 on the Kenilworths I ordered locally, full retail for a boot I really want might just be worth it. Can't wait until both pair come in!
     
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    Factory seconds for the strand is $269. Should I wait for a sale on them? Or just bite the bullet?
     
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    Just be warned Goose, AE's finishing really doesnt compare to Aldens (at least in my opinion)
     
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    Are you OK, Subutai?? Did AE come get you before you could finish that sentence????
     
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  20. GooseG

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    I know, their finishing isn't as glossy.
     
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