The Official Temple of Jawnz Thread

[impolyt_one]

Originally Posted by constant struggle

**** sorry meant s2s not p2p...
yeah chrono im about the same p2p as you... i think you have slightly smaller shoulders though



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Also are pants going to come in odd sizes at all (31,33,etc)


Once again, the s2s per size are only 1" apart, that is 1/2" per side. The general fit is designed to mask that anyway as it won't rely on the tricep to roll out (I have no upper arms ) , and as long as you get the next size up if in doubt, the absolute worst fit can be alleviated with a layer underneath, it's very simple and the fit will work.


Pants will be a FSR in every size from 28"-34", the 28-31" waists will get a 34" inseam and 32-34 will get a 36" inseam, for your own personal hemming preference.

 

[impolyt_one]

Originally Posted by Nil

That's a fantastic price. All I ask is that you have the duffle sample up before you cut off the preorders for the peacoat. I can only cop one jacket and I'm still debating between those two and the leather.

We probably can't show both the pea and the duffle within the same week; each run will cost well into the 5 figures (there will be 100 pcs of each made per run) at our cost, so yeah. I am pricing these aggressively, basically. That is why I am left to describe both, show you the pea, and let you trust me on the duffle that will follow like a week later or so. I work kinda slow but it's because there's 2 of us pulling the weight of like 10 normal people, we're on a limited budget, ie my wallet, and we're trying to make sure everything we do next is always the next level up.

 

[ctrlaltelite]

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5 figures as in "$00000.00" or "$000.00" ...because i really cannot imagine the former.

 

[aqhong]

Originally Posted by ctrlaltelite

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5 figures as in "$00000.00" or "$000.00" ...because i really cannot imagine the former.
If there are 100 made at $000.00 each, that's $00000.00?

 

[driveslowk]

^ 100 pieces times anything over 10 is 5 figures?

 

[daft]

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how could it be "$000.00" when he's planning "100 pcs of each made per run" even if it's 999.99 that's $10 per coat which is impossible.

 

[impolyt_one]

yes, $XXX per piece X100 = $XX,XXX, and that I'm praying that first number of the 5 starts with a 1 and not a 2, but I am not sure yet all said and told. This is our first try at doing thing the professional way (ie not off my kitchen table at 3am, from copy paper and gluesticks)... usign CAD patterns graded digitally, a professional factory with 30+ years experience and the backing of a huge conglomerate and the proper equipment to execute each stitch, and of course the pre-order/set schedule/set delivery from a 100pc set thing.

Considering the sizes 4 or 5 plus 3 talls, so 7-8, there can only be 10-20 max of the absolute most popular sizes like the XS (nee TOJ46) 17" s2s; sizes like the XXS (nee TOJ44, 16" s2s, 23ish sleeve) will probably come out at a max of like 5 pieces, maybe 4 blacks and 1 Hbone, I like the idea of having some grail status piece like that, haha.

 

[impolyt_one]

Originally Posted by daft

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how could it be "$000.00" when he's planning "100 pcs of each made per run" even if it's 999.99 that's $10 per coat which is impossible.

lol. Did I start the asian math convention? I'll put it this way. I can buy a new car for what the single run of each style coat will cost. It's expensive, and that's because we're putting **** like cashmere and leather into it, and plus labor is fairly high in this country all said and told. The single step of putting a canvassing into each coat is costing us $20 per coat, to give you an idea. You guys would be surprised if I could tell you, but trust that if this finds its way into a store next year, it most definitely will not be a median $350 price point.

 

[aqhong]

Just to be clear, the old TOJ 44 = new XS, right? You've been alternating between saying it's XXS and XS in your last couple posts, haha. I think this is what you mean:

44 = XS = 16" s2s
46 = S = 17" s2s
48 = M = 18" s2s
50 = L = 19" s2s
52 = XL = 20" s2s

Right?

 

[Arms_Akimbo]

double'd

 

[Arms_Akimbo]

Description of the peacoat sounds great, will definitely be getting in a preorder on that. Gonna pass on the duffel as I need a heavy weather coat too, don't want to wear cashmere in a blizzard! Properly speaking, I'm a 37, and I usually squeeze into smalls, should I be thinking of getting the toj46 size?

 

[impolyt_one]

yeah sorry, I haven't slept in 48 hrs and I'm drinking my nighttime beers; your chart is correct and that's how the outerwear will go; some stuff with differently structured shoulders may go up a .5" in the future, etc, so every half inch per inch, 16.5/17.5/18.5 as before, but overall yeah your chart is gonna be where we'll be. On this coat as long as your round up and play it safe, you will be just fine. Sizing down is riskier than sizing up.

 

[impolyt_one]

Originally Posted by Arms_Akimbo

Description of the peacoat sounds great, will definitely be getting in a preorder on that. Gonna pass on the duffel as I need a heavy weather coat too, don't want to wear cashmere in a blizzard! Properly speaking, I'm a 37, and I usually squeeze into smalls, should I be thinking of getting the toj46 size?

I hate to define human size ranges for my sizes because I'll turn around right after and be proven wrong; but I if you're seriously a true 37, with a 37 chest and the average white dude's shoulder span to match (I'd say a natural 17" shoulder to shoulder across the shirt back of an averagely built person with a 37" chest would be true) then you could go to the TOJ48, aka Medium. Our stuff runs maybe a half size to a quarter size smaller than true and we're working on making that so it's more like a quarter size to zeroed, but in the case of outerwear, the sizing up will not be shockingly apparent because we run our sizes slightly smaller together than western brands might do, but judging by sizes previously ordered from me and comparing them to physical builds (one guy at 6'8" has ordered a 21.5" s2s from me, in other words an XXL) we're within a pretty true range for the international community.

 

[AR_Six]

Do you have the ability to move the sizing around a bit to accommodate tweaks or are they pretty much set re: leathers? Apologize in advance if this has been asked & answered.

 

[impolyt_one]

The new stuff is gonna be run in standard set sizing.

As I have mentioned before, we are tossing around a strong possiblity of making very limited numbers of big/tall MTM versions of the same coats for a surcharge to account for material cost and what a tailor making the piece by hand would cost, as a separate thing. It will not be fiscally advantageous for someone who fits into a normal size to go for an MTM unless you are used to paying for big/tall stuff, can wait, and are absolutely certain nothing we make as standard will fit, even with tailoring.